The home support is terrible

awest said:
Just sat there waiting for something to happen. No singing, no shouting and no passion. Plenty of moaning though. Where have all the really passionate city fans gone? We are a top club with an excellent fan base so ffs let's give it 100% support when inside the ground.
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Our support has been slowly changing for a while and it's got to the point now where it's a different kind of fanbase in the ground than it used to be. There's a lot of the same people who've always been there but there is a huge amount of people who don't go anymore.

I've said this many times, but there used to be over twenty of us at every game; yesterday there were two of us and we weren't stood together. A group of lads who used to have SeasonCards formed a football team and play on Saturday's instead of paying £650-715 for their SCs and coming to City now.

£46 against relegation fodder (who we made look like Mourinho's Inter yesterday) - people are just stopping paying these prices now and the people coming in their stead turn up in their posh car, sit there in silence, possibly have a few kids in tow dropping hot dogs on the floor and playing on their iPads, you've even got cûnts with selfie sticks and United souvineer shop bags now. The place is an embarrassment!
 
the fan and the fan experience has changed completely. i'm just glad to have been around when football was proper football.

want a passionate crowd. get the tv cameras out of there. get fans in, and get the seats out. at least in part.
 
There are numerous reasons why the atmosphere is awful but I think it is mainly due to the fact we are so boring to watch and the crowd barely gets excited when we start to look like we are penning the opposition in their box because it results in one pass to many or a corner (which I don't even stand up for anymore). We don't create many clear cut chances anymore.

And when you look for inspiration from the bench and all you see is Pellers standing there showing less passion than what I show when the Mrs asks me to take the bin out then you know nothing is really going to give us the spark we need
 
Once the atmosphere goes then the soul is ripped out. A live game should be about passionate fans who create an electric atmosphere. Ok the players need to entertain but in other countries fans are inside the ground 2 hours before a ball has been kicked making a tremendous amount if noise. This in turn gets the players buzzing surely. The whole match day experience at city is cheesy and aimed at the deep pocket brigade rather than the hard core blues who stood behind the team when they were at their lowest position in history. I've heard it all before about groups creating better atmospheres but whilst there are no standing sections I'm afraid that's always going to be a tough call. Oh and 45 sheets to get in. Ouch!
 
Think the performances of the home games lately esp first half of most of the players is suckin the drive from the fans . The slow build up lack of shots lack of drive forward towards goal im in 118 in south stand im even im forgetting the last time we had a shot at goal or scored in the first half at our end
 
There's many reasons why but before blaming the support why not blame the players for some shit, slow home performances (Boro, Burnley, Stoke, Arsenal, Hull)

Always starting the game slow.
 
give it to gordon said:
My two lads and me use to come up 2 or 3 times a season, not alot but a 600mile round trip has something to do with that, but also the price when the lads first started coming up it was a fiver each and twenty quid for me ........ £30 for all three of us ! Now it nearer £100........than theres petrol.

I think football as a whole has a problem with lack of fans and atmosphere to many teams like to park the bus its all about staying in the premiership and sod the entertainment.

Teams have worked out how to play us sit back 10 behind the ball than counter with pace, if there attack breaks down City arent in a rush to get forward so they get 10 back easily. .......its boring..... is it worth playing around £250 for us to watch it ? When we have other bills that need paying
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I'm travelling over for the Barcodes game in a couple of weeks.
Air fare: €94 (£69:75)
Hotel room (2 nights): €188 (£139:50)
Match ticket: £50
That's near as dammit £250 (without any incidental expenses; travel, spending money etc etc). For one person. Is it value for money at the present time? Of course it isn't. And I'm finding it very hard to justify that sort of outlay for a football match. It's my third game so far this season (Stoke and Spurs). I must be mad.

*edit* Oh yeah; a day off work as well (the friday) without pay. That's another €80 (£60).
 
it does seem comical that a fan, who has paid 46 quid for a ticket, a tenner to park, and maybe the same again and more for his family gets slated because the atmosphere is shit. Thanks for giving us a huge part of your disposable income, maybe the only game you could afford in months, but can you remember the next time you come, to recreate the atmosphere of the world cup final of 1978 because the players and the manager are struggling to get motivated, especially in the first half.
 
jimharri said:
give it to gordon said:
My two lads and me use to come up 2 or 3 times a season, not alot but a 600mile round trip has something to do with that, but also the price when the lads first started coming up it was a fiver each and twenty quid for me ........ £30 for all three of us ! Now it nearer £100........than theres petrol.

I think football as a whole has a problem with lack of fans and atmosphere to many teams like to park the bus its all about staying in the premiership and sod the entertainment.

Teams have worked out how to play us sit back 10 behind the ball than counter with pace, if there attack breaks down City arent in a rush to get forward so they get 10 back easily. .......its boring..... is it worth playing around £250 for us to watch it ? When we have other bills that need paying
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I'm travelling over for the Barcodes game in a couple of weeks.
Air fare: €94 (£69:75)
Hotel room (2 nights): €188 (£139:50)
Match ticket: £50
That's near as dammit £250 (without any incidental expenses; travel, spending money etc etc). For one person. Is it value for money at the present time? Of course it isn't. And I'm finding it very hard to justify that sort of outlay for a football match. It's my third game so far this season (Stoke and Spurs). I must be mad.

*edit* Oh yeah; a day off work as well (the friday) without pay. That's another €80 (£60).
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You are bonkers mate.....but fair play to ya. We have locals who go and can't even be arsed unfolding their arms once at the match.
 
The atmosphere's been shite for a few years now. It's been discussed at length on here. Something needs doing about it, but I'm not sure anyone at the club knows how to sort it out. There's probably tons of people employed who know a shite load about generating income through advertising and sponsorship, or who can eke a few more bucks out of the match going individual. However, I'd hazard a guess that they know sweet fuck all about generating atmosphere.
 
Was discussing this yesterday.

Atmosphere was better at Maine Road when we the fans turned out 'hoping' for a win rather than 'expecting' a win.

Our football is too predictable and our opponents know to pack the final third with 9 players and we struggle to break them down.

Our players too often try to score the 'perfect' goal, rather than having a shot from outside the area - make their keeper work and get it on target.

No urgency from our players and we run out of ideas - no Plan B.

An interesting stat i heard yesterday was that when Yaya has gone to the AFCON we have never won a game.
 
Firstly, the players have to get the crowd excited. This slow tippy tappy across the back four and then the midfielders doing the same thing across the middle is dull to watch unless played at pace. Then there is the issue of fans that are likely to create an atmosphere in the ground being priced out and replaced with overseas fans that are mainly there for the "experience". When we play away from home our fans make a good noise, are they making the same noise at home? Finally the myth of Maine Road, yes overall it was a miles better atmosphere, but there were plenty of quiet games and plenty of empty seats sometimes.
 
paul_blue said:
Was discussing this yesterday.

Atmosphere was better at Maine Road when we the fans turned out 'hoping' for a win rather than 'expecting' a win.

Our football is too predictable and our opponents know to pack the final third with 9 players and we struggle to break them down.

Our players too often try to score the 'perfect' goal, rather than having a shot from outside the area - make their keeper work and get it on target.

No urgency from our players and we run out of ideas - no Plan B.

An interesting stat i heard yesterday was that when Yaya has gone to the AFCON we have never won a game.
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That might be a fact but it shouldn't matter. All the other top teams cope with losing their players so we should do the same. The atmosphere has been going downhill for a few seasons now, we started to win most home games and when we struggle, like yesterday, it all falls a bit flat. This is not helped by the prices (do they care? The new Sky deal is on it's way meaning even more tv money) and the fact that we are now a global brand and therefore have a global support. If anyone is in any doubt about this just sit up in the 3rd tier and listen to the accents.

This is the way modern football has been going for a few years now. It's a shame but we can't stop it. The olden days of heaving terraces full of passion and singing, the humour and the "getting caught up in the moment" have gone. We all sit down, or are supposed to. If this is going to change the a return to standing in certain sections is what's needed. Look at the Germans. Great atmosphere.
 
The home support was better when players were forced off the pitch in tears because they'd taken so much abuse, presumably.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
You can only play the GET BEHIND THE LADS card for so long.

1 win in 6 games, possibly our worst run since the Hughes era (and even then I'm not sure)

The atmosphere is rubbish because the team are playing rubbish.
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we are second, just won the league last year. Have some of the best players in the world. The atmosphere should be amazing. How does any team below us have a good atmosphere ? We played rubbish in the past and the atmosphere was good. We've become a spoilt crowd, who dont have any passion or sing anymore unless its united.

Worst run since the hughes era hahaha you mean when we were like 6th ? thats not even bad. It sounds like fans think they are to good to sing. We should be singing no matter what, not waiting for the players to do something .

And fans keep defending it saying maine road was a myth in terms of noise. Maine road was miles better than what we have now
 
blueinsa said:
Corporate fans, emphasis on families and it being and "experience" etc etc but i will say this, the team sets the pattern for the 90 mins and given yesterdays first 45 mins, its a miracle we didn't have a major emergency on our hands with 40 odd thousand people in comas at half time!
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absofuckinglutely this
 
The team came out yesterday and there was nothing, absolutely nothing to get excited about. Even when we didn't play well a few years ago there was always a De Jong tackle or a SWP dribble to get excited about. There was a total lack of effort and application yesterday and the expectancy of a comfortable home win lead to a dreadful atmosphere. The team is dramatically underperforming and Pellegrini seems unsure of what to do to correct it. The crowd can only do so much to lift the team and the players need to have a long look at themselves after the debacle v Hull.
 
This style of play doesn't give us anything to get up too. Granted it shouldn't have too, but just think of the best atmospheres bad derbies. It's when we're coming back, like Hamburg or the like. When we're peppering the goal with crosses and shots; whereas this squad just aimlessly pass the ball around the edge of the box and never shoot.
 
stan bowles said:
The team came out yesterday and there was nothing, absolutely nothing to get excited about. Even when we didn't play well a few years ago there was always a De Jong tackle or a SWP dribble to get excited about. There was a total lack of effort and application yesterday and the expectancy of a comfortable home win lead to a dreadful atmosphere. The team is dramatically underperforming and Pellegrini seems unsure of what to do to correct it. The crowd can only do so much to lift the team and the players need to have a long look at themselves after the debacle v Hull.
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the crowd didn't do anything though. No roars of encorougment when hull scored. No come on city when we were attacking. There was nothing in terms of support.
 
THE EMPTY SEAT.


I travel with a small sized branch from monton to home games. its small size being 1. in rag central. 2. its closeness to the trams. we probably have between 19 and 24 going on the coach, of those 2 young lads were playing football for their team 1 bloke was working and 2 people were away on holiday and those are the ones i know of
 
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