The idiocy (and selfishness) of panic buying

Wonderful news for lorry drivers.

Not so good news for all the other low paid careers that won’t be able to afford the food at the higher cost it causes.

Before not being able to afford to heat their homes.

Gas prices have risen sharply internationally. They're bonkers in Spain. You're trying to draw a straight line when there isn't one.
 
Gas prices have risen sharply internationally. They're bonkers in Spain. You're trying to draw a straight line when there isn't one.
Just not at the same level as the U.K. has to pay.

I was pointing out that whilst lorry drivers will be quids in, the knockon effect will make life much harder for a lot of people.
 
Just not at the same level as the U.K. has to pay.

I was pointing out that whilst lorry drivers will be quids in, the knockon effect will make life much harder for a lot of people.
So let's keep everyone on a low wage, let's scrap the minimum wage and go back to working class, middle class and upper class.
At least we could all afford to eat, gruel but hey at least we'd know our place.
 
So let's keep everyone on a low wage, let's scrap the minimum wage and go back to working class, middle class and upper class.
At least we could all afford to eat, gruel but hey at least we'd know our place.
It has to be managed carefully and we know that won’t happen.

Therefore people are going to really suffer this winter.

It’s ok though, it won’t stop you being flippant on message boards.
 
Bore off mate.

British HGV drivers wages are going up, and will stay there with the absence of foreign drivers from the EU over the coming years creating a downward pressure on wages.

This short term crisis will benefit British workers in the longterm, and will help secure lots of people stable longterm careers. I have friends made recently redundant that are now getting into the industry.

I thought your ilk were all about the workers and being the voice of the working class?

I'm no Tory, but Labour would have foreign HGV drivers here indefinitely and a great opportunity to upskill British workers would be lost forever. As is, it can't be changed overnight so a lot of foreign workers will benefit in the short term, longterm British workers will benefit. A lot already are.

Party points scoring embarrassment some of your posts. You have socialist views/principles or you don't.

A skilled 30k-50k job for an average worker, without a uni education and/or the benefits of middle class networking/nepotism/favours, is something that's well out of reach for most ordinary working class people. Something like this offers a real opportunity of social mobility for a lot of people, and all you care for is wanking over your party politics derby. Boring, and wholly embarrassing.

I don't regret voting out, and would do it again tomorrow. Cheers.
Purely out of interest, and no animus, can you define what you envisage as ‘short-term’?
 
It has to be managed carefully and we know that won’t happen.

Therefore people are going to really suffer this winter.

It’s ok though, it won’t stop you being flippant on message boards.
Oh come on, you are saying they should remain on poor wages to keep prices down and yet wonder why I am being flippant.
 
Oh come on, you are saying they should remain on poor wages to keep prices down and yet wonder why I am being flippant.
I. Am. Not. Saying. That.

If it is not managed properly, it’s going to cause a world of pain for a large number of JAMs.

Ideally I want as many people to have more than enough money to live to a decent standard.

For the record, I don’t want people to have to live off gruel and whatever other foodstuffs you mentioned.

What is your solution to the people that can’t afford to live?
 
I. Am. Not. Saying. That.

If it is not managed properly, it’s going to cause a world of pain for a large number of JAMs.

Ideally I want as many people to have more than enough money to live to a decent standard.

For the record, I don’t want people to have to live off gruel and whatever other foodstuffs you mentioned.

What is your solution to the people that can’t afford to live?
I do not know the answer to your last question, I doubt anyone does but I do know that people should get a decent wage for an honest day's work. I have no issues with hgv drivers wages improving.
There are plenty of sectors where workers are overpaid they are not one of them.
 
I do not know the answer to your last question, I doubt anyone does but I do know that people should a decent wage for an honest day's work. I have no issues with hgv drivers wages improving.
There are plenty of sectors where workers are overpaid they are not one of them.
So your debate is simple solely focussed on one profession, without thinking what it could cause in others?

I would suggest that most people in this country are u Der paid for what they do, rather than overpaid.
 

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