Every time the minimum wage goes up, everyone in that sector gets a pay raise and usually prices have to go up soon after to cover the increase costs. Does that mean we should scrap the minimum wage to keep prices down to stop people going hungry ?So your debate is simple solely focussed on one profession, without thinking what it could cause in others?
I would suggest that most people in this country are u Der paid for what they do, rather than overpaid.
Bore off mate.
British HGV drivers wages are going up, and will stay there with the absence of foreign drivers from the EU over the coming years creating a downward pressure on wages.
This short term crisis will benefit British workers in the longterm, and will help secure lots of people stable longterm careers. I have friends made recently redundant that are now getting into the industry.
I thought your ilk were all about the workers and being the voice of the working class?
I'm no Tory, but Labour would have foreign HGV drivers here indefinitely and a great opportunity to upskill British workers would be lost forever. As is, it can't be changed overnight so a lot of foreign workers will benefit in the short term, longterm British workers will benefit. A lot already are.
Party points scoring embarrassment some of your posts. You have socialist views/principles or you don't.
A skilled 30k-50k job for an average worker, without a uni education and/or the benefits of middle class networking/nepotism/favours, is something that's well out of reach for most ordinary working class people. Something like this offers a real opportunity of social mobility for a lot of people, and all you care for is wanking over your party politics derby. Boring, and wholly embarrassing.
I don't regret voting out, and would do it again tomorrow. Cheers.
Minimum wage means for all low waged people.Every time the minimum wage goes up, everyone in that sector gets a pay raise and usually prices have to go up soon after to cover the increase costs. Does that mean we should scrap the minimum wage to keep prices down to stop people going hungry ?
I wouldn't agree that most people are underpaid but there are a fair few jobs that should be paid more.
Some train drivers are on 70k a year, I would say that is overpaid.
I agree with most of what you are saying, but you seemed to say hgv drivers should not have a wage rise as this would cause price rises. In turn this would cause hardship for others. Your suggestion was to manage any wage rises but that does not work. We are a free market economy and employers will pay what the market dictates.Minimum wage means for all low waged people.
Inflating one profession, especially one linked to cost of living inflates that cost, but not the wage of most low waged earners. There is the difference.
Throughout the country, more people will be underpaid than overpaid, given that we are a service based economy.
It's nothing short of an abomination that folk should be subgigated into work for £6.45 £8.20 and £8.70 dependant on age groupings and why should an 18 year old employee not be worthy of the same rates as a 25 year old.I do not know the answer to your last question, I doubt anyone does but I do know that people should get a decent wage for an honest day's work. I have no issues with hgv drivers wages improving.
There are plenty of sectors where workers are overpaid they are not one of them.
Its a tough one for sure, what i do know is if someone puts the effort in and doe's a decent days work especially in an industry where there's a demand then he or she should be rewarded with decent pay. Do you think it's right to constantly import people who'll work for lower pay to keep wages down. Don't seem fair to those already here who actually do the jobs to me.Minimum wage means for all low waged people.
Inflating one profession, especially one linked to cost of living inflates that cost, but not the wage of most low waged earners. There is the difference.
Throughout the country, more people will be underpaid than overpaid, given that we are a service based economy.
Absolutely, but if supermarket staff can’t afford to live on their wage, then they either starve or change jobs.I agree with most of what you are saying, but you seemed to say hgv drivers should not have a wage rise as this would cause price rises. In turn this would cause hardship for others. Your suggestion was to manage any wage rises but that does not work. We are a free market economy and employers will pay what the market dictates.
Obviously not, but it doesn’t solve the problem of the other lowly paid people. I’m not against the idea, just worried that without proper management, it could screw things for a lot of people.Its a tough one for sure, what i do know is if someone puts the effort in and doe's a decent days work especially in an industry where there's a demand then he or she should be rewarded with decent pay. Do you think it's right to constantly import people who'll work for lower pay to keep wages down. Don't seem fair to those already here who actually do the jobs to me.
I agree employers should pay a living wage rather than have the rest of us subsidise them. but regarding low wages for a younger age it always was the case as you aged served your apprenticeship you money increased along with your ability to do the job. I wouldn't pay an 18 year old same as a 25 year old either.It's nothing short of an abomination that folk should be subgigated into work for £6.45 £8.20 and £8.70 dependant on age group, and why should an 18 year old employee not be worthy of the same rates as a 25 year old.
No one's asking for a kings ransom but if employers cannot afford to pay decent living wages then those employers should not be conducting business in the first instance. They know they can pay buttons as the goverment picks up the tab.
They aren't apprentices working toward the goal of higher a wage and stability. Most are simply working in mundane industries to earn a crust for their families with zero light at the end of the tunnel, so it's nothing short of a disgrace to segrigate workers into age-pods to increase profit margin.I agree employers should pay a living wage rather than have the rest of us subsidise them. but regarding low wages for a younger age it always was the case as you aged served your apprenticeship you money increased along with your ability to do the job. I wouldn't pay an 18 year old same as a 25 year old either.