The idiocy (and selfishness) of panic buying

I wonder if somehow there could be a way of giving tax breaks/reductions to companies that pay their staff over a certain percentage of their turnover.

(I recognise the rags would never pay tax with that system, but they hide their money in the Cayman Islands anyway.)
 
I wonder if somehow there could be a way of giving tax breaks/reductions to companies that pay their staff over a certain percentage of their turnover.

(I recognise the rags would never pay tax with that system, but they hide their money in the Cayman Islands anyway.)
And that is the issue with globalisation. Amazon, Google and the rags all pay what they have too according to UK law. They all argue that their main money is made abroad and therefore not subject to UK tax.
To keep this on topic, when we were in the e.u Eddie Stobart moved his business to Europe so that he could pay less tax. Now that we are an island again your idea could work. UK businesses that do what you suggest get rewarded.
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Absolutely, but if supermarket staff can’t afford to live on their wage, then they either starve or change jobs.

Increasing supermarket workers wages on top of lorry drivers wages means food costs will likely increase more.

Then there’s carers on minimum wage that can’t afford these even higher prices.

I’m not trying to stop HGV drivers getting a deserved rise, I’m just trying to outline the issues we’d have if we inflate part of the jobs market.

I don’t have the answer. If I did, I’d probably be overpaid for my work ;-)
You make a very valid point about care workers. I have never understood why we expect our loved ones to be cared for but do not want or expect the people doing the caring to be reasonably rewarded.
If you give the carers poor work conditions and poor pay the main ones that suffer are your mam or dad.
 
And that is the issue with globalisation. Amazon, Google and the rags all pay what they have too according to UK law. They all argue that their main money is made abroad and therefore not subject to UK tax.
To keep this on topic, when we were in the e.u Eddie Stobart moved his business to Europe so that he could pay less tax. Now that we are an island again your idea could work. UK businesses that do what you suggest get rewarded.
What I will saybis there us novelty answer.
We’d get the tax back through the staff spending more.

I’m merely thinking aloud.

Think we’ve said as much as we can and thank you for having a rational conversation once you realised I am not a gruel salesman.
 
Some people may call me selfish. I had half a tank need a full tank for Friday for my holiday to Cornwall. I havent seen a garage with fuel all week. That must be around 10 garages aday I pass though work, all empty.

Went out last night to fill up to make sure I could get to Cornwall and the four days of work next week.
First 4 garages no fuel, 5th garage tanker just turn up and I was first in the que. This was about 8pm. Within in seconds on me stopping the que grew quickly. Now my son text me at 7 am to say he is stuck in the same que as I was in last night. He doesnt need fuel but cant get passed to go to work.

I saw one poor bloke run out of fuel about 100 yds from a petrol station by some traffic lights, he had to get out and push. Unfortunately the garage didnt have fuel.

I normally wouldn't have got fuel yesterday but I perhaps selfishly wanted to make sure I could go on holiday.
Why is it selfish, you have a need for fuel, so just go and buy it. There is no fuel shortage, just a problem in the supply chain. Don’t feel guilty, covid times have been shit, enjoy your holiday, you deserve it without any guilt attached to it
 
Every time the minimum wage goes up, everyone in that sector gets a pay raise and usually prices have to go up soon after to cover the increase costs. Does that mean we should scrap the minimum wage to keep prices down to stop people going hungry ?
I wouldn't agree that most people are underpaid but there are a fair few jobs that should be paid more.
Some train drivers are on 70k a year, I would say that is overpaid.
Why is that overpaid. They are skilled at what they do. They have the responsibility for hundreds of peoples lives to get them to their destination safely. Seems a fair rate to me.
 
Why is that overpaid. They are skilled at what they do. They have the responsibility for hundreds of peoples lives to get them to their destination safely. Seems a fair rate to me.
It is my understanding that it is mainly automated these days with little chance much could go wrong (unless they fall asleep)
Perhaps I should have said tube drivers, apparently those things are as good as automated and only a very good union stop it happening.
Compared to other industries 70 k seems a lot.
 
Bore off mate.

British HGV drivers wages are going up, and will stay there with the absence of foreign drivers from the EU over the coming years creating a downward pressure on wages.

This short term crisis will benefit British workers in the longterm, and will help secure lots of people stable longterm careers. I have friends made recently redundant that are now getting into the industry.

I thought your ilk were all about the workers and being the voice of the working class?

I'm no Tory, but Labour would have foreign HGV drivers here indefinitely and a great opportunity to upskill British workers would be lost forever. As is, it can't be changed overnight so a lot of foreign workers will benefit in the short term, longterm British workers will benefit. A lot already are.

Party points scoring embarrassment some of your posts. You have socialist views/principles or you don't.

A skilled 30k-50k job for an average worker, without a uni education and/or the benefits of middle class networking/nepotism/favours, is something that's well out of reach for most ordinary working class people. Something like this offers a real opportunity of social mobility for a lot of people, and all you care for is wanking over your party politics derby. Boring, and wholly embarrassing.

I don't regret voting out, and would do it again tomorrow. Cheers.

The post you are referring to cites labour shortages in the poultry industry which has led to a shortfall of 1m turkeys.

A turkey is a large domesticated game bird native to North America and is not to be confused with a truck driver, a person hired to drive long distances from the place of pickup to the place of delivery.

I can comment on the social mobility advantages of working on a poultry farm as I did a holiday job turkey plucking. Trust me, they’re shit, but I picked up a lasting respect for the people who did it full time and would be more than happy to see them awarded a pay rise. Or at least not have their UC cut, energy costs whacked through the roof or taxes raised.
 
It is my understanding that it is mainly automated these days with little chance much could go wrong (unless they fall asleep)
Perhaps I should have said tube drivers, apparently those things are as good as automated and only a very good union stop it happening.
Compared to other industries 70 k seems a lot.
I guess they’re in the pilot class of job. They’re paid for what they might need to do, not what they don’t have to do.
 
You're assuming he lives within 40 miles or less from a refinery other than that Morrison's in Duky had shitloads yesterday. :-)
I filled up in Asda Ashton on Friday. No queues, no limits. I put £48 worth in, then did my shopping as usual. Should keep me going in October/November. I did notice that it had gone up 2p/litre since I last filled up there - now £1.32.7. A woman opposite me put in a fiver's worth!
 

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