The 'I'm not bothered' excuse from red tw*ts

[Deepest Blue]

Anticipated this from them.

Said to a Rag last week what will you think if you lose, he said that there was no way and that they were 100% gonna do the treble AGAIN.
This game was gonna be their platform and it was gonna be the catalyst to us imploding, missing CL, sacking RM, Balo and Tevez going and us being a laughing stock as we get in another manager and more mercenaries.

OK we haven't yet finished the job but that game was absolutely massive for both sides and if any Rag tells you they're not arsed they're thick, a liar or both.

 

[Rahart]

They care obviously. But to be fair, I think we'd care a hell of a lot more if we'd have lost.
Had they won they still wouldn't be celebrating like they won the cup, 4 days on from the game, when there's still nothing won yet.

If we'd have lost we'd have cared a hell of a lot more.
They have the Premiership title (unforunately it's pretty much written in stone) and a good enough chance of winning the CL (if things very much go their way).

So while they cared on the day, and I'm sure it still hurts a bit, it would have pained us a hell of a lot more.
At the end of the day, while celebrating is great and we deserve it after beating them, but it brings us back around to this small club mentality.

But from their point of view, if we had the title in the bag and a CL semi to look forward to, and we lost the cup, I doubt we'd be too cut up about it.
Lets put it another way. How many of us would be saying it's "just the FA Cup" if we were able to swop it for the Premiership/CL. We'd swop it in the morning, no hesistation. The FA Cup is nice (and we haven't won it yet) but it's always been an underdog competition, the weaker teams thrive (look at the other finalists) and usually the top clubs fall as something has to give when you're giving so much at all fronts.

We should enjoy this now,enjoy the small victories, because we'll have them singing non stop when they win the Premiership at the end of the season and God help us if they get to the CL final and Barca have an off day.
Even before we played them, their 100% focus is the Premiership and the CL. The cup was a second thought. If they had to loose somewhere, it was always going to be in the Cup. It wasn't their priority. Not even nearly.
Whether we'll admit that or not is another thing all together. But unforunately that's the truth of it.

 

[RuncornBlue]

Half of them seem to think they have already won this years League and Champions League - and they have the cheek to say to us 'You've gotta win it first'

 

[Freestyler]

Half of them seem to think they have already won this years League and Champions League - and they have the cheek to say to us 'You've gotta win it first'

if Arsenal win tonight it's back on.

the scum have to play arsenal and chelsea yet.

their sheer arrogance is beyond belief.

'we don't care you beat us, we've won the league' April 16th 2011.

idiots.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Half of them seem to think they have already won this years League and Champions League - and they have the cheek to say to us 'You've gotta win it first'

if Arsenal win tonight it's back on.

the scum have to play arsenal and chelsea yet.

their sheer arrogance is beyond belief.

'we don't care you beat us, we've won the league' April 16th 2011.

idiots.

I think they have won the league though, rsenal are trying there upmost to not win it but finish 2nd its Wengers new philosiphy

 

[Mike C]

They care obviously. But to be fair, I think we'd care a hell of a lot more if we'd have lost.
Had they won they still wouldn't be celebrating like they won the cup, 4 days on from the game, when there's still nothing won yet.

If we'd have lost we'd have cared a hell of a lot more.
They have the Premiership title (unforunately it's pretty much written in stone) and a good enough chance of winning the CL (if things very much go their way).

So while they cared on the day, and I'm sure it still hurts a bit, it would have pained us a hell of a lot more.
At the end of the day, while celebrating is great and we deserve it after beating them, but it brings us back around to this small club mentality.

But from their point of view, if we had the title in the bag and a CL semi to look forward to, and we lost the cup, I doubt we'd be too cut up about it.
Lets put it another way. How many of us would be saying it's "just the FA Cup" if we were able to swop it for the Premiership/CL. We'd swop it in the morning, no hesistation. The FA Cup is nice (and we haven't won it yet) but it's always been an underdog competition, the weaker teams thrive (look at the other finalists) and usually the top clubs fall as something has to give when you're giving so much at all fronts.

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Utter bollocks.

This will be only the second time since 1995 that a club other than the "Big Four" have won the FA Cup.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

They care obviously. But to be fair, I think we'd care a hell of a lot more if we'd have lost.
Had they won they still wouldn't be celebrating like they won the cup, 4 days on from the game, when there's still nothing won yet.

If we'd have lost we'd have cared a hell of a lot more.
They have the Premiership title (unforunately it's pretty much written in stone) and a good enough chance of winning the CL (if things very much go their way).

So while they cared on the day, and I'm sure it still hurts a bit, it would have pained us a hell of a lot more.
At the end of the day, while celebrating is great and we deserve it after beating them, but it brings us back around to this small club mentality.

But from their point of view, if we had the title in the bag and a CL semi to look forward to, and we lost the cup, I doubt we'd be too cut up about it.
Lets put it another way. How many of us would be saying it's "just the FA Cup" if we were able to swop it for the Premiership/CL. We'd swop it in the morning, no hesistation. The FA Cup is nice (and we haven't won it yet) but it's always been an underdog competition, the weaker teams thrive (look at the other finalists) and usually the top clubs fall as something has to give when you're giving so much at all fronts.

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Utter bollocks.

This will be only the second time since 1995 that a club other than the "Big Four" have won the FA Cup.

Techinically there wasnt a big 4 untill 2004 and Chelsea won the cup a few times during that period

 

[2sheikhs]

You can conduct your own test on this. I've done it before. Whenever I've started a new job in a warehouse or factory and in the first day or two,you notice a gobby,slimey turd that no fucker likes,who crawls around the boss,telling tales on his workmates, I've often asked the other lads "is he a rag"? Nearly 100% of the time he is. It's like there's something missing or defective upstairs. I'm not just saying this as a general insult, it's true. The office/shopfloor/warehouse moron is always a rag.

 

[Rahart]

They care obviously. But to be fair, I think we'd care a hell of a lot more if we'd have lost.
Had they won they still wouldn't be celebrating like they won the cup, 4 days on from the game, when there's still nothing won yet.

If we'd have lost we'd have cared a hell of a lot more.
They have the Premiership title (unforunately it's pretty much written in stone) and a good enough chance of winning the CL (if things very much go their way).

So while they cared on the day, and I'm sure it still hurts a bit, it would have pained us a hell of a lot more.
At the end of the day, while celebrating is great and we deserve it after beating them, but it brings us back around to this small club mentality.

But from their point of view, if we had the title in the bag and a CL semi to look forward to, and we lost the cup, I doubt we'd be too cut up about it.
Lets put it another way. How many of us would be saying it's "just the FA Cup" if we were able to swop it for the Premiership/CL. We'd swop it in the morning, no hesistation. The FA Cup is nice (and we haven't won it yet) but it's always been an underdog competition, the weaker teams thrive (look at the other finalists) and usually the top clubs fall as something has to give when you're giving so much at all fronts.

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Utter bollocks.

This will be only the second time since 1995 that a club other than the "Big Four" have won the FA Cup.

My point is that this (and the Carling Cup) isn't their top priority. And it wouldn't be ours either if we were in their position.

 

[ChrisBee]

I got a text after the game saying that the FA Cup doesn't count unless you win another to go with it. Ha

I had that off a rag (and FC mini scum) mate....Asked him where his treble and new ground had gone then laughed at anything else he said. They're the worst losers going. Only 1 rag I know said City played better but followed it with "that Balotelli is a nob". I said yeah, but he's OUR nob.

 

[Rahart]

I got a text after the game saying that the FA Cup doesn't count unless you win another to go with it. Ha

I had that off a rag (and FC mini scum) mate....Asked him where his treble and new ground had gone then laughed at anything else he said. They're the worst losers going. Only 1 rag I know said City played better but followed it with "that Balotelli is a nob". I said yeah, but he's OUR nob.

I've always said you've to loose one to win one. Hopefully not though.

Ballotelli is some fuckin dope though and looking at Mancini's reaction to him he thinks the same, looked like he was going to murder the boy when he took him off the pitch. Probably did and all. God forbid the he acts his age for once.

 

[Mike C]

Utter bollocks.

This will be only the second time since 1995 that a club other than the "Big Four" have won the FA Cup.

My point is that this (and the Carling Cup) isn't their top priority. And it wouldn't be ours either if we were in their position.

Well, perhaps the first line of my response was a little intemperate!

Of the 3, it may usually be seen as the "least" important - however, their reaction after the game suggests otherwise. We shouldn't underestimate their desire to stop us winning a trophy - witness last years Carling Cup, where they played a stronger team in the semi against us than they did in the actual final.

On a general point, no club turns their nose up at the FA Cup, or claims to be "happy" they're out of it.

To the poster mentioning that the "Big 4" didn't start until 2004 - Chelsea were spending money before Abramovich; Matthew Harding? They imported a lot of big foreign names, and were established in the Top 4, and playing Champions League before then.

 

[The Silver Surfer]

Whatever they do now they're not going to get the treble are they ?

If Arse win tonight that will leave them 4 points behind, and if utd start having the squits they could end up with nothing cos they aint going to win the CL.

 

[im_still_here]

i asked the missus brother if he watched the game, he reckons he's a big united fan, his reply was, i forgot it was on i went bowling.

 

[stonerblue]

I had that off a rag (and FC mini scum) mate....Asked him where his treble and new ground had gone then laughed at anything else he said. They're the worst losers going. Only 1 rag I know said City played better but followed it with "that Balotelli is a nob". I said yeah, but he's OUR nob.

I've always said you've to loose one to win one. Hopefully not though.

Ballotelli is some fuckin dope though and looking at Mancini's reaction to him he thinks the same, looked like he was going to murder the boy when he took him off the pitch. Probably did and all. God forbid the he acts his age for once.

He did fuck all wrong and Bobby was defending him. That twat Plug and his fat fuckin mate (whatever he's called) were the ones making a fuss and acting like spoilt kids.

 

[friedrice12]

I'm finding silence the best thing to do, they all seem to be cowering waiting for me to say something and I just keep smiling! They eventually have to come over and say ok get it over with, it's like the waiting is killing them! ha ha

Loving it though, and my Son is on a facebook rampage lol!

 

[Rahart]

My point is that this (and the Carling Cup) isn't their top priority. And it wouldn't be ours either if we were in their position.

Well, perhaps the first line of my response was a little intemperate!

Of the 3, it may usually be seen as the "least" important - however, their reaction after the game suggests otherwise. We shouldn't underestimate their desire to stop us winning a trophy - witness last years Carling Cup, where they played a stronger team in the semi against us than they did in the actual final.

On a general point, no club turns their nose up at the FA Cup, or claims to be "happy" they're out of it.

To the poster mentioning that the "Big 4" didn't start until 2004 - Chelsea were spending money before Abramovich; Matthew Harding? They imported a lot of big foreign names, and were established in the Top 4, and playing Champions League before then.

Ya they were annoyed, more at our idiot and our reaction than anything they don't like to loose, but my point is that they're over it by now, and if we'd have lost we wouldn't be, same way if they'd have won the semi they still wouldn't be cheering about it 4 days later like they'd won the Premiership. When in reality we've won nothing.
Which brings us back full circle because we're trying to prove to everyone, to them especially if we're honest, that we're not a small club anymore but we're still going around with a small club mentality, haha we beat the Rags, lets celebrate for a month.

It should be, nice one, but the final is still there and we've a lot of work to do before the end of season. Nothing is won in April and though people are going on and on about it, they're not the ones celebrating in mid April. We are. And they've more cause to than us.

And ya I'm sure they were bothered about us getting to the final, but they don't give a shit, and no I'm not talking about the RAG fans, I'm talking about the team and the management. They couldn't give a shit what we do. Unforunately we're still living in their shadow. So our mentality is completely different to theirs.

We are well down on their list of priorities or worries.
They, apparently if you look around here, are on the top of ours.

And that still screams a small club mentality.
And that's something I thought we were trying to get rid of.

 

[PSmyth07]

How about.

"Balotelli said something personal about Anderson and thats why Anderson went upto him at the end. Ferdinand saw this and was trying to stick up for Anderson and apparently Balotelli said something to Ferdinand during the game"

 

[Rahart]

I've always said you've to loose one to win one. Hopefully not though.

Ballotelli is some fuckin dope though and looking at Mancini's reaction to him he thinks the same, looked like he was going to murder the boy when he took him off the pitch. Probably did and all. God forbid the he acts his age for once.

He did fuck all wrong and Bobby was defending him. That twat Plug and his fat fuckin mate (whatever he's called) were the ones making a fuss and acting like spoilt kids.

Technically no, he did nothing wrong that we know of.

But he nearly caused a riot. He's caused Mancini problems since he stepped in the door.
He never stops screwing up. He hasn't stopped acting like a spoilt little brat since he got here and he's caused nothing but problems since.
What he did was another childish action and it was very lucky that there was no reaction by the FA.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

[quote="Rahart]Technically no, he did nothing wrong.
But he nearly caused a riot. He's caused Mancini problems since he stepped in the door.
He never stops screwing up. He hasn't stopped acting like a spoilt little brat since he got here and he's caused nothing but problems since.
What he did was another childish action and it was very lucky that there was no reaction by the FA.[/quote]

You are talking rubbish... if he did nothing wrong, how can he have nearly caused a riot... he celebrated - he didnt run to the united fans and celebrate (like Evra did when Rooney scored at OT) did our players grab hold of the little shit and start throwing him about?? No they didnt... the Rags have little or no class, they cant take losing, they cant take banter - so why shouldnt we, after so many years of taking shit off them, throw some back?

Your posts are like we shouldnt be happy to beat our biggest rivals on one of the biggest stages we can? I ask why shouldnt we? Its nothing to do with being small time, we arent and even in our darkest times been a small club, we are a big club, and if we arent i would like you to name 10 bigger, even when we were in Div 2, we have just not performed as we should have. Its a very raggy thing to do go on about us being small time, only arrogant twats think that if you arent one of the biggest in the world you must therefore be small. I'm quite tall at 6'3" that doent mean everyone shorter than me is a dwarf, but thats how Rags think, if you arent as big as us you must be mickey mouse. Also you should have some respect for those who have been waiting a life time for just a glimmer of success (asked me 10 years ago i would have done just about anything for us to reach a semi at Wembley, let alone win it against that lot) i never thought we would play a meaningful game there is my life time... so if you think we shouldnt celebrate or be happy, well you either arent a blue or have no idea what it is to be blue.

And if they didnt care about us, why did Wio et al react as they did, why was Scholes gobbing off that we arent their rivals, why did they kick in the dressing room... Wio reacted as he hates losing esp to us, Scholes gobs off about us because he is from greater Manchester and knows how much it means (lets face it if you arent bothered by something you dont talk about it) and they kicked the dressing room apart because they were bothered...

Something of your posts screems Rag... and i thought we were trying to get rid of those