The Independent Group

When we vote at elections, what exactly are we voting for? A candidate who we believe will work for the constituency, or are we voting for a party machine, a system if you like? I myself go for the former because I prefer someone who gets to grips with his or her electorate's problems. I don't vote for a party as it's backbench members have little say except in a way that doesn't rock the party vote. With the current system, we might as well just fill in our polling papers with a choice of party without even knowing who the candidate is and we can then leave May or Corbyn with the task of filling in each 'won' constituency with a sycophant of their own choosing. At least that will avoid the very idea of an independently minded MP from rocking the boat.
 
I'm no cynic but... said:
When we vote at elections, what exactly are we voting for? A candidate who we believe will work for the constituency, or are we voting for a party machine, a system if you like? I myself go for the former because I prefer someone who gets to grips with his or her electorate's problems. I don't vote for a party as it's backbench members have little say except in a way that doesn't rock the party vote. With the current system, we might as well just fill in our polling papers with a choice of party without even knowing who the candidate is and we can then leave May or Corbyn with the task of filling in each 'won' constituency with a sycophant of their own choosing. At least that will avoid the very idea of an independently minded MP from rocking the boat.
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I'd say that for the most part in a GE most people vote for a party or a party leader. There is no doubt for example that Labours relative success at the last GE was down to the Corbyn phenomenom - that is generally accepted, In a by-election I think peoples minds are more focussed on the individual candidate. Interestingly nobody outside the PCP - not even her own constituents - voted for Theresa May to be PM.
 
I'm no cynic but... said:
When we vote at elections, what exactly are we voting for? A candidate who we believe will work for the constituency, or are we voting for a party machine, a system if you like? I myself go for the former because I prefer someone who gets to grips with his or her electorate's problems. I don't vote for a party as it's backbench members have little say except in a way that doesn't rock the party vote. With the current system, we might as well just fill in our polling papers with a choice of party without even knowing who the candidate is and we can then leave May or Corbyn with the task of filling in each 'won' constituency with a sycophant of their own choosing. At least that will avoid the very idea of an independently minded MP from rocking the boat.
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Most people vote for a party mate.
 
Doubts aside about the process I actually think it’s quite interesting that British politics is being ruffled. I’ve been saying for a while we need a new centre party and maybe this is the beginnings of one.

A centre, pro EU, pro equality party gets my vote!
 
bugsyblue said:
Doubts aside about the process I actually think it’s quite interesting that British politics is being ruffled. I’ve been saying for a while we need a new centre party and maybe this is the beginnings of one.

A centre, pro EU, pro equality party gets my vote!
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Mine too. All day, every day. However, I’m very cynical about the capacity of our political system to change. You only have to look at where MPs go to work to realise the whole system is wedded to the past and inherently resistant to evolution.
 
The war criminal expected to announce hes joining the independence party group.

Big win for Labour if true.
 
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