The IRA

Well at least i know now there are a few city fans i wouldn't want to be in the same pub as.

I am struggling to believe level headed members of society can use words such as "admired" or "respect" in the same sentence as the ira tbh.

I admire people like the guys in bletchley park who discovered radar. Not murdering cowards.
 
BigTony said:
red 2 hats said:
BigTony said:
I've got a lot of family from Ireland, some of who now live in manchester and ive got to admit i do admire what the IRA did in all honesty.

Would I say that in public? Perhaps not, but I do feel that way, can't help it really.

You admire an organisation that blew up innocent people, I lost a family member in the troubles and nearly lost a 3 year old niece in the Warrington bombing, so in all honesty I think your a knob, I can't help but feel that way, I can't help it really, and I would say it in public.

Up to you mate.

Do you support the British Army? Or do you hate them too because they've blown up innocent people? If so fair enough. But I aint gonna change my views just because someone gets hysterical at me.

Getting hysterical at you by calling you a knob, think youv'e led a sheltered life if thats getting hysterical, and I wont change my mind and opinions about the IRA, scum. And to answer your point, I hate anybody, whatever uniform, colour, creed, religion who sets out to murder innocent people.
 
BigTony said:
I've got a lot of family from Ireland, some of who now live in manchester and ive got to admit i do admire what the IRA did in all honesty.

Would I say that in public? Perhaps not, but I do feel that way, can't help it really.

What is there to admire in blowing up innocent men, women and children?

And the IRA never really took on the British Army as such, they tended to hit soft targets. When the gloves came off for a while and the S.A.S became more involved the IRA showed they could dish it out but they couldn't take it.
 
Murph said:
BigTony said:
I've got a lot of family from Ireland, some of who now live in manchester and ive got to admit i do admire what the IRA did in all honesty.

Would I say that in public? Perhaps not, but I do feel that way, can't help it really.

What is there to admire in blowing up innocent men, women and children?

And the IRA never really took on the British Army as such, they tended to hit soft targets. When the gloves came off for a while and the S.A.S became more involved the IRA showed they could dish it out but they couldn't take it.

What could they have done differently?

Did you think they should have sat back and done nothing?

Also the British Army have killed a lot more innocent people.
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
SWP's back said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
I'll stick with Gandhi but thanks anyway.
Yep, it worked for Chamberlin. Peace in our time and all that.

I could just as easily point to the numerous wars which were a complete disaster such as Vietnam or the current one.

I didn't say the peaceful path was 100% fool proof, I simply suggested it was a more viable option, in my opinion, than mass slaughter on both sides and no end result.
It is indeed a worthy option but not always a viable one, which makes the statement bullshit. It is obvious to anyone civilised that peace is preferable, but as with pacifism it would only mean appeasement or surrender when confronted with aggression. Vietnam and the current war were and will probably will be halted by public opinion. WW2 did not give us that luxury.
 
BigTony said:
Murph said:
BigTony said:
I've got a lot of family from Ireland, some of who now live in manchester and ive got to admit i do admire what the IRA did in all honesty.

Would I say that in public? Perhaps not, but I do feel that way, can't help it really.

What is there to admire in blowing up innocent men, women and children?

And the IRA never really took on the British Army as such, they tended to hit soft targets. When the gloves came off for a while and the S.A.S became more involved the IRA showed they could dish it out but they couldn't take it.

What could they have done differently?

Did you think they should have sat back and done nothing?

Also the British Army have killed a lot more innocent people.

Why did the IRA need to attack soft targets? Why the need to kill and maim innocent civilians going about their everyday business? It was Callous and indiscriminate! A bomb doesn't differentiate between Black or White or Catholic or Protestant.

The IRA could have taken the fight solely to the Army, but they chose not to, maybe because unarmed civilians can't shoot back?
 
TCIB said:
Well at least i know now there are a few city fans i wouldn't want to be in the same pub as.

I am struggling to believe level headed members of society can use words such as "admired" or "respect" in the same sentence as the ira tbh.

I admire people like the guys in bletchley park who discovered radar. Not murdering cowards.

To be honest, I have been pretty shocked by this thread, I know a lot of Irish people who do not share the same opinions, but they had to live through it seems that most of the people espousing respect and admiration for PIRA, are 2nd or 3rd generation Irish decent who have a rosy sentimental view of the old country, of course they never had to live with the troubles or lost a member of their family to the troubles, but their opinions have been set in stone some may say they were even indoctrinated , shame really, life moves on, and so has Ireland
 
BigTony said:
Murph said:
BigTony said:
I've got a lot of family from Ireland, some of who now live in manchester and ive got to admit i do admire what the IRA did in all honesty.

Would I say that in public? Perhaps not, but I do feel that way, can't help it really.

What is there to admire in blowing up innocent men, women and children?

And the IRA never really took on the British Army as such, they tended to hit soft targets. When the gloves came off for a while and the S.A.S became more involved the IRA showed they could dish it out but they couldn't take it.

What could they have done differently?

Did you think they should have sat back and done nothing?

Also the British Army have killed a lot more innocent people.


Admiration for murders like this, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[bigimg]http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/resources/images/861158/[/bigimg]
 
Murph said:
BigTony said:
Murph said:
What is there to admire in blowing up innocent men, women and children?

And the IRA never really took on the British Army as such, they tended to hit soft targets. When the gloves came off for a while and the S.A.S became more involved the IRA showed they could dish it out but they couldn't take it.

What could they have done differently?

Did you think they should have sat back and done nothing?

Also the British Army have killed a lot more innocent people.

Why did the IRA need to attack soft targets? Why the need to kill and maim innocent civilians going about their everyday business? It was Callous and indiscriminate! A bomb doesn't differentiate between Black or White or Catholic or Protestant.

The IRA could have taken the fight solely to the Army, but they chose not to, maybe because unarmed civilians can't shoot back?


If they'd took it straight to the army and wern't anonymous they would have just got arrested.

Remember they see it as their country and the Army as invaders/oppresors.

Again though the British army killed a lot more innocent civilians, the more you go back the worse it is. I don't think we're taught the truth in England, I know I wasn't in school, or haven't been by the media.

I do think they went too far at the end though and the guy showing the warringto picture, I could show pictures of 100s of innocent people killed by the british army, are they not as important in your eyes?
 

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