The Italian Benitez...

jay_mcfc said:
Didsbury Dave said:
After the usual brainless abuse by people like that jay-mcfc early in the thread, it's turned into a decent one. Fairplay to billy for not rising to it.

I can't believe any of you see that as a point gained, not lost.

Hugely disappointing

Brainless? That was exactly what this thread was until people other than Billy started talking. The OP was nothing other than attention seeking drivel in which he's changed his mind another three times in the thread.

What that has to do with you 'Didsbury' God only knows. Me and Billy have history; he gave me so much shit when I rightly said Hughes wasn't good enough for us and now he's getting it with both barrels.

You, meanwhile, are right up there with the attention seeking and are equally as much of a twat and shit-stirring prick as Billy bull shit!

Calm down son. Calm down

You might be better to leave a sensible thread to those of us who like to discuss and debate.

Take your shouting and abuse to a thread populated by the kiddies and tubthumpers.

"MR MANCINI I AM 100% BEHIND YOU" might be a good place for you to start, which has just appeared.

I don't care about your "history" with anyone, I can see what you are. As can anyone else with brains.

Here it is:
<a class="postlink-local" href="http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=196845" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=1&t=196845</a>

It' s got the spelling mistakes, the groundless optimism and the cliches wich your sort like. You get on there and get swearing and stuff ;-)
 
fbloke said:
How are you feeling this morning BIlly?

Same as last night mate.

Reading some of the other threads on this board last night and this morning, it seems I'm not as alone in my reservations about Mancini's way as I thought I was.

It's interesting that even some of the people who profess to be in full support of Mancini feel the need to make comments along the lines of "well, I'm not sure about his tactics" or "I'm not sure about his man management style" but they're prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt...

My problem is that I gave him the benefit of the doubt last season when everyone said "judge him after he's got his own players". He has, and it hasn't changed his philosophy one bit. I accept it's effective at times, but we've still come unstuck in the same ways as we did last season. Shit performances against "lesser" teams, defensive performances against "top" teams...the upshot is points dropped...

Since I've been battered so much by one particular child in this thread, I'm curious - what was Hughes' points trajectory at this point last season?
 
jay_mcfc said:
Them two (I'm from Didsbury and Billy Bullshit) speak like rags every time they type a message. They loved Hughes because he was a rag and when he went they cried into their little rag shirts.

I like you Bill and hopefully I'll see you in Juve, Ric too but I'm very sorry these two are a pair of c***ts and they can fuck right off!!

I guess I'll see you in a few days ;)

good to see you took the warning well:)
 
BillyShears said:
fbloke said:
How are you feeling this morning BIlly?

Same as last night mate.

Reading some of the other threads on this board last night and this morning, it seems I'm not as alone in my reservations about Mancini's way as I thought I was.

It's interesting that even some of the people who profess to be in full support of Mancini feel the need to make comments along the lines of "well, I'm not sure about his tactics" or "I'm not sure about his man management style" but they're prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt...

My problem is that I gave him the benefit of the doubt last season when everyone said "judge him after he's got his own players". He has, and it hasn't changed his philosophy one bit. I accept it's effective at times, but we've still come unstuck in the same ways as we did last season. Shit performances against "lesser" teams, defensive performances against "top" teams...the upshot is points dropped...

Since I've been battered so much by one particular child in this thread, I'm curious - what was Hughes' points trajectory at this point last season?


Pretending that you have ever given Mancini the benefit of doubt is a litttle sad mate, you have been against him from day one, and bringing up Hughes tips your hand.
 
BillyShears said:
fbloke said:
How are you feeling this morning BIlly?

Same as last night mate.

Reading some of the other threads on this board last night and this morning, it seems I'm not as alone in my reservations about Mancini's way as I thought I was.

It's interesting that even some of the people who profess to be in full support of Mancini feel the need to make comments along the lines of "well, I'm not sure about his tactics" or "I'm not sure about his man management style" but they're prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt...

My problem is that I gave him the benefit of the doubt last season when everyone said "judge him after he's got his own players". He has, and it hasn't changed his philosophy one bit. I accept it's effective at times, but we've still come unstuck in the same ways as we did last season. Shit performances against "lesser" teams, defensive performances against "top" teams...the upshot is points dropped...

Since I've been battered so much by one particular child in this thread, I'm curious - what was Hughes' points trajectory at this point last season?

I do know where you and other are coming from but I am firmly of the opinion that we are at risk of calling things too early.

We are now 12 games in and there are some very positive things to come out of those games and indeed some negative ones too.

I posted a few moths ago (and repeated it since) that Mancini simply doesn't rate/trust a handful of players he still has to call upon. The obvious one is Ade', for good reason IMO, and that has informed the way he sets out his stall.

The game against United was a game he was desperate not to lose as he is proving that mentality and his way gets results.

He also knows that United can swamp a team if they lose the ball a lot - Ade' gives away possession far too often - so he set things up with one up front.

So I am giving Roberto the chance to prove that he can play attacking footie when he has the players he trusts.
 
fbloke said:
BillyShears said:
Same as last night mate.

Reading some of the other threads on this board last night and this morning, it seems I'm not as alone in my reservations about Mancini's way as I thought I was.

It's interesting that even some of the people who profess to be in full support of Mancini feel the need to make comments along the lines of "well, I'm not sure about his tactics" or "I'm not sure about his man management style" but they're prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt...

My problem is that I gave him the benefit of the doubt last season when everyone said "judge him after he's got his own players". He has, and it hasn't changed his philosophy one bit. I accept it's effective at times, but we've still come unstuck in the same ways as we did last season. Shit performances against "lesser" teams, defensive performances against "top" teams...the upshot is points dropped...

Since I've been battered so much by one particular child in this thread, I'm curious - what was Hughes' points trajectory at this point last season?

I do know where you and other are coming from but I am firmly of the opinion that we are at risk of calling things too early.

We are now 12 games in and there are some very positive things to come out of those games and indeed some negative ones too.

I posted a few moths ago (and repeated it since) that Mancini simply doesn't rate/trust a handful of players he still has to call upon. The obvious one is Ade', for good reason IMO, and that has informed the way he sets out his stall.

The game against United was a game he was desperate not to lose as he is proving that mentality and his way gets results.

He also knows that United can swamp a team if they lose the ball a lot - Ade' gives away possession far too often - so he set things up with one up front.

So I am giving Roberto the chance to prove that he can play attacking footie when he has the players he trusts.

So basically, we're back to the 'bad eggs' in the dressing room argument.

I'm sorry, but I'm yet to come across a manager who has been afforded the luxury which Hughes and Mancini were afforded in terms of buying a new team. Most manager's have to find ways to adapt to the dressing room which they inherited, and most managers don't have the luxury of jettisoning players not because of their footballing abilities but because the manager can't handle having them around...

Anyway, it's a moot argument. In the coming months we'll see what does and doesn't change. My opinion is still that we ask far too much of Milner, Silva, and Tevez. The three of them are all doing the jobs of two players, and it's the reason why up against a well organized and hard working team we struggle so much. As much as people go on about the formation being a 4231 with Yaya playing in between Milner and Silva - that's not how it panned out last night, or in quite a few other matches this season. It ends up with Milner nominally playing from the right AND left, while Silva plays in behind Tevez.

I'm not sure why a squad with the quality of ours needs to play in that manner. I genuinely don't...
 

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