The Labour Government

[Chippy_boy]

The Tories (aided by the Lib Dems) did effectively get a free pass for the years of austerity - until it became obvious it was an ideological austerity, not a necessity. Wrecking public services was a mission.

Of course Vic. Not even the Tories want decent schools, hospitals and infrastructure, do they. No, they want oblivion for the uk and won’t be happy until we’re all scrabbling around in the dirt for the next turnip to feed the family for a week. FFS your bias is so overwhelming, you come out with some absolute horse shit, you really do. No-one WANTS crap public services. No-one, red or blue.

 

[Vic]

Of course Vic. Not even the Tories want decent schools, hospitals and infrastructure, do they. No, they want oblivion for the uk and won’t be happy until we’re all scrabbling around in the dirt for the next turnip to feed the family for a week. FFS your bias is so overwhelming, you come out with some absolute horse shit, you really do. No-one WANTS crap public services. No-one, red or blue.

Yet the Tories managed to achieve it.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Of course Vic. Not even the Tories want decent schools, hospitals and infrastructure, do they. No, they want oblivion for the uk and won’t be happy until we’re all scrabbling around in the dirt for the next turnip to feed the family for a week. FFS your bias is so overwhelming, you come out with some absolute horse shit, you really do. No-one WANTS crap public services. No-one, red or blue.

No they wanted them that bad they could be privatised for their mates, whilst they sent their kids to private schools and private healthcare the cunts.

 

[Chippy_boy]

No they wanted them that bad they could be privatised for their mates, whilst they sent their kids to private schools and private healthcare the cunts.

What a great insight you have. Are you similarly clairvoyant about Starmer's covert reasons for wanting ID cards I wonder? And bad, naughty Tories sending their kids to private school or having private healthcare. What a disgrace.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Reeves has a massive job on her hands. Partly why it’s been delayed I suspect.

They'll do the Tory technique of 'leaking' bits of it to decide if there's any pushback before rewriting it 10 mins before she speaks on it.

 

[Chippy_boy]

They'll do the Tory technique of 'leaking' bits of it to decide if there's any pushback...

They've been doing just that for weeks if not months already.

 

[Vic]

They've been doing just that for weeks if not months already.

That was the "Tory technique" of previous Tory budgets where everything had been leaked or actually announced beforehand. Rather, Labour has spent weeks trying not to respond to every tax-raising idea that gets aired - so the headline can be (as above) "Labour refuses to rule out ...".

 

[Kompany Car]

Had to be done with the amount of jobs at stake but it’s a huge wake up call for business who have to ensure their systems are nailed down.

You can nail down your systems all you want but its only as secure as the system administrators. Bung someone a chunk of money for their user details who has the correct privileges and the criminals are in.

Whilst I appreciate that anyone from anywhere could succumb to the temptation of a large sum of money, its got to be much more tempting if you live in a developing country and get paid relatively poor wages. Yet most large western companies offshore their IT to these places.

 

[Vic]

I couldn't think where else to post this (short of starting another thread) but...

If everything's so bad and no-one's got any money

1. Why are there so many new restaurants?

All Of The Best New Restaurants & Bars To Try This October In Manchester

Manchester is welcoming some new restaurants and bars this October, from spots serving Pan-Asian cuisine to marvellous tapas plates.

secretmanchester.com

2. Why are people wasting money on Halloween?

Fun or frightful? Halloween Advent calendars hit the shelves

Retailers stock up on countdown gifts as Britain’s enthusiasm for (and spending on) spooky holiday grows

www.theguardian.com

 

[hilts]

I couldn't think where else to post this (short of starting another thread) but...

If everything's so bad and no-one's got any money

1. Why are there so many new restaurants?

All Of The Best New Restaurants & Bars To Try This October In Manchester

Manchester is welcoming some new restaurants and bars this October, from spots serving Pan-Asian cuisine to marvellous tapas plates.

secretmanchester.com

2. Why are people wasting money on Halloween?

Fun or frightful? Halloween Advent calendars hit the shelves

Retailers stock up on countdown gifts as Britain’s enthusiasm for (and spending on) spooky holiday grows

www.theguardian.com

People have been saying no one has got any money?

A dream you had or a pork pie Vic?

 

[Bluesince1979]

I couldn't think where else to post this (short of starting another thread) but...

If everything's so bad and no-one's got any money

1. Why are there so many new restaurants?

All Of The Best New Restaurants & Bars To Try This October In Manchester

Manchester is welcoming some new restaurants and bars this October, from spots serving Pan-Asian cuisine to marvellous tapas plates.

secretmanchester.com

2. Why are people wasting money on Halloween?

Fun or frightful? Halloween Advent calendars hit the shelves

Retailers stock up on countdown gifts as Britain’s enthusiasm for (and spending on) spooky holiday grows

www.theguardian.com

You know pubs are closing at huge rates yeah?

 

[Blue Maverick]

What a great insight you have. Are you similarly clairvoyant about Starmer's covert reasons for wanting ID cards I wonder? And bad, naughty Tories sending their kids to private school or having private healthcare. What a disgrace.

Didn’t say I have a problem with them sending their kids to private school what I had a problem with was austerity. The pursued austerity whilst feathering their own nests ruining the public sector, I didn’t have a pay rise for 10 years yet they allowed banks to pay bonuses to people who caused the financial crash, they are a set of cunts and this lot in charge now aren’t much better.

 

[Blue Maverick]

I couldn't think where else to post this (short of starting another thread) but...

If everything's so bad and no-one's got any money

1. Why are there so many new restaurants?

All Of The Best New Restaurants & Bars To Try This October In Manchester

Manchester is welcoming some new restaurants and bars this October, from spots serving Pan-Asian cuisine to marvellous tapas plates.

secretmanchester.com

2. Why are people wasting money on Halloween?

Fun or frightful? Halloween Advent calendars hit the shelves

Retailers stock up on countdown gifts as Britain’s enthusiasm for (and spending on) spooky holiday grows

www.theguardian.com

I think youngsters have given up getting on the ladder and just blowing their cash whilst living at home, also how many of these restaurants are open in a year? Everytime yiu open up media a p other is closing and another is opening, are they tax right offs?

 

[Vic]

You know pubs are closing at huge rates yeah?

Currently one a day. Tory record was 5 a day in 2017.

I don't think I need to go into all the reasons why pubs close. My favourite pub closed, as many did, because the pubco put up the rent and the tenant said stuff it, I can't afford that, and no-one else was willing to pay the asking price. Token planning application to turn into a gastropub so when they come to demolish for housing they can say "we tried to keep it as a pub".

 

[bluethrunthru]

Mahmood demands migrants earn right to settlement in UK

New tests will include learning English to a high standard, paying National Insurance and not claiming benefits.

www.bbc.co.uk

Under the proposals, legal migrants will have to learn English to a high standard, have a clean criminal record and volunteer in their community to be granted permanent settlement status.

errr .......... "have to volunteer"? If you have to volunteer then its not volunteering is it?

 

[Vic]

I think youngsters have given up getting on the ladder and just blowing their cash whilst living at home, also how many of these restaurants are open in a year? Everytime yiu open up media a p other is closing and another is opening, are they tax right offs?

Total number of restaurants in the UK is about a third higher than 15 years ago.

Manchester ranked North’s second most ‘restauranty’ city

Manchester has come second in a survey of northern cities ranked by the number of restaurants per head of population

ilovemanchester.com

Of course, a lot of the clientele is rich pensioners doing their bit to boost the hospitality economy. (That should draw in a few...)

 

[We've got Guardiola]

I think sole reason for the delay is her praying for some random and unknown economic good news to partly bail her out. So she’s leaving it as long as she possibly can.

I can understand that, but the downside is a self-fulfilling doom prophesy. The economy is now on pause, with businesses and people sitting on their hands fearing what she might do. So the economic situation in November is likely to be just as dire - perhaps even more so - than it is now.

Unless of course you believe the left wing geniuses on here who will tell you that we are not broke, can never go broke, that we need to spend more on public services and all will be well. And the rich - I.e. someone else, but not me, can pay for it all.

This makes no sense because the current UK debt is around £3tn or around £100,000 per household. A realistic target to put us on par with the rest of Europe and certainly the fiscal leader in Germany is to reduce it by around half or so.

Who else could possibly pay for this except for the rich? Is Erling Haaland for example on £500k per week really going to struggle by earning £50k per year less? Would he for example move to Madrid because of that? He would earn £25,950,000 per year instead of £26,000,000.

The average household meanwhile hasn't got £1k to burn let £50k so recovery through general taxation is pretty much impossible. Every single penny that Reeves recovers in her budget will be to balance spending, that's it, it won't make a single difference to the debt. If not on the rich then where are we going to find £1.5tn worth of cuts....?

What will really happen is the same austerity/Tory playbook, we won't find £1.5tn worth of cuts, we'll find £10bn worth of cuts and the slow marching rot of public services will continue. The country's finances are being run to the equivalent of hoping to win the lottery but there is no lottery. And meanwhile the people who already have all of the money are getting even richer.

 

[BlueHammer85]

How many gullible millions will be lapping this up.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Mahmood demands migrants earn right to settlement in UK

New tests will include learning English to a high standard, paying National Insurance and not claiming benefits.

www.bbc.co.uk

Under the proposals, legal migrants will have to learn English to a high standard, have a clean criminal record and volunteer in their community to be granted permanent settlement status.

errr .......... "have to volunteer"? If you have to volunteer then its not volunteering is it?

Presumably they couldn’t push ahead with the English language requirements while Angela Rayner was still in the cabinet - the hypocrisy would have been off the scale.

 

[Chippy_boy]

That was the "Tory technique" of previous Tory budgets where everything had been leaked or actually announced beforehand. Rather, Labour has spent weeks trying not to respond to every tax-raising idea that gets aired - so the headline can be (as above) "Labour refuses to rule out ...".

Are you really this naive, or just blinkered? Where do you think these speculations originate from? You think the Tories leaked them but your beloved Labour party is so squeaky clean, such tactics would be beneath them? Come off it mate, you're not that daft, you can't be.