The Labour Government

[TinFoilHat]

Do they do any in Maggie flavour?

Elon working on it for his tech bro Rishi.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

There are plenty of ways to fund it, they're choosing not to.

They have chosen not to, because it was clear as day that they haven’t had chance to look at where they can fund it from. It was specifically left out of the manifesto with Starmer stating that he wanted to reverse it but didn’t know how to fund it.

As for the political gain, they’ve brought this to see how weak the leadership is by using an emotive subject to test them, just like you are using it to attack the centre of the party.

What’s your thoughts on Rayner and many of the left of the party voting to retain it, are they cunts as well or are they toeing the party line and allowing the party to bring a proper policy to the country that will eradicate the shitshow that we see now.

 

[Don Karleone]

They have chosen not to, because it was clear as day that they haven’t had chance to look at where they can fund it from. It was specifically left out of the manifesto with Starmer stating that he wanted to reverse it but didn’t know how to fund it.

As for the political gain, they’ve brought this to see how weak the leadership is by using an emotive subject to test them, just like you are using it to attack the centre of the party.

What’s your thoughts on Rayner and many of the left of the party voting to retain it, are they cunts as well or are they toeing the party line and allowing the party to bring a proper policy to the country that will eradicate the shitshow that we see now.

Go away with all this "they can't fund it" bollocks. Plenty of money for other stuff but not for something that will make an actual difference.

If you voted against the amendment or abstained without a valid reason, you're a ****. That's my thoughts.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Go away with all this "they can't fund it" bollocks. Plenty of money for other stuff but not for something that will make an actual difference.

If you voted against the amendment or abstained without a valid reason, you're a ****. That's my thoughts.

So they should just click there fingers and say yes to 3.4 billion a year just like that when they’ve only been in power a few weeks ?

Soon as there’s a whiff of a tax rise the same Karleone anger will be shown all over the country.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Seven out of a maj of 181 is a fly on a cows arse and inconsequential. My guess is the cancellation of the Bibby Stockholm contract renewal and other steps taken and to come will be saving money to be put to use and this 7 could be made to look damn stupid for a performative knee jerk reaction like this - 18 days in FFS

Labour suspends seven rebel MPs over two-child benefit cap

The government comfortably won the vote despite growing pressure from some of its own MPs to scrap the policy.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[TinFoilHat]

Interestingly they might give teachers a bigger pay rise than 5.5% as part of a reformation of schools and education curriculum policy.

They are looking for incentives to retain teachers as well as encourage new people into the role.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Go away with all this "they can't fund it" bollocks. Plenty of money for other stuff but not for something that will make an actual difference.

If you voted against the amendment or abstained without a valid reason, you're a ****. That's my thoughts.

So, that’s most of them on the left of the party.

Personally, I’m with you, this needs to be sorted, and quickly. What they can’t do is be beholden to those who want to bring them down at the first turn.

This will come, but in a far better way of protecting those that need it.

 

[BrianW]

Interestingly they might give teachers a bigger pay rise than 5.5% as part of reformation of schools and education curriculum policy.

They are looking for incentives to retain teachers as well as encourage new people into the role.

Well, this is a bad policy, isn't it? 'Incentives' are for the rich and greedy.

Humble plebs should be grateful for whatever pittance they are offered, and doff their caps in gratitude.

I always find it funny that such fundamental concepts as supply and demand, which every Tory should understand, are somehow not supposed to apply to the public sector. Maybe they think public sector workers go to work for the crack, have all inherited a house and don't need to eat or pay utility bills.

 

[Don Karleone]

So they should just click there fingers and say yes to 3.4 billion a year just like that when they’ve only been in power a few weeks ?

Soon as there’s a whiff of a tax rise the same Karleone anger will be shown all over the country.

They had no trouble saying yes to £3bn a year for Ukraine for as long as it takes. Fiscal rules go out of the window when it comes to war, apparently. It can be funded, they're choosing not to.

 

[Postman Pep]

Fiscal competence. If he had lost the vote, what Reeves had been put in place on the messaging if fiscal competence would have been undermined.

It needs to go, but they need to find a credible way to "fund it".

He was never going to lose the vote so we can disregard that bit and that fiscal competence defence doesn't really stack up. It costs the equivalent of the recent annual pledge to Ukraine, where fiscal justification is not even remotely part of the debate.