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west didsblue said:
Are you ready to accept he didn’t fly first class having seen the figures?
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Got to laugh at this. What a stooge!

You're claiming that he couldn't have flown to Washington on first class tickets because the flights would have cost more than the £6k he claimed in expenses, to use one example. Are you aware of the concept of inflation, and how the prices of air fares and indeed other goods and services have changed since he took those flights ten, fifteen years ago?

If you adjust the prices in his expenses to the latest equivalent values, using the air fare series in the CPI, then his £6k flight to Washington in November 2012 is equivalent to over £12K today. His November 2009 flight at just under £5k would cost just under £11K in today's money, adjusted for how air fares have changed since. For reference, if I wanted to book the most expensive first class, flexible ticket to Washington right now on BA, leaving tomorrow, it would cost just over £8k.

He obviously flew first class, so why lie to try to defend him? It's frankly embarrassing.
 
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mosssideblue said:
looks like most of his travel was by train. See nothing untowards with Rail/Taxi/Flights/ Hotels etc.
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Sure but over 60% of the claims were for a chauffeur driven car to ferry him around London.
mosssideblue said:
What's the breakdown for his car?
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A standard 22/23 K a quarter , nearly 8K a month. Neither of his successors claimed for such a perk. Maybe someone put a stop to it because Keith abused the privilege so much?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Seems to be for you. I’ve already said I wouldn’t have stopped the WFA until energy prices meant we didn’t have to subsidise peoples’ heating.

I’m happy that the asylum crisis is being resolved having been created deliberately by the previous government.

I’m happy that the rhetoric is cooling down.

The country isn’t going to be rectified in a few years, but the trend can begin.

There was no Hope under the previous government. We were in a race to the bottom.

Now we’re going to have to stop that momentum and start rebuilding.

We don’t know how long Labour will be in for. That’ll depend what the Tories can salvage from the bin fire that is left at the moment.
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Fair enough mate. I agree with you about a few things - not many to be honest. But you're entitled to your views of course, and we are all mates here at the end of the day.

PS, I do think that the Tory party needed a complete reboot. You may have noticed I said I was a supporter of conservative principles, not of the Tory party.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Fair enough mate. I agree with you about a few things - not many to be honest. But you're entitled to your views of course, and we are all mates here at the end of the day.
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There’ll be mistakes made and bad decisions too along the way and as they happen, I’ll call them as I see them, like always.

Seeing things differently is a part of life and absolutely fine for most things and if you need to vent and it helps, carry on. It just seems a little OTT when not much has happened yet. (To me anyway)
 
Brewster's millions said:
Got to laugh at this. What a stooge!

You're claiming that he couldn't have flown to Washington on first class tickets because the flights would have cost more than the £6k he claimed in expenses, to use one example. Are you aware of the concept of inflation, and how the prices of air fares and indeed other goods and services have changed since he took those flights ten, fifteen years ago?

If you adjust the prices in his expenses to the latest equivalent values, using the air fare series in the CPI, then his £6k flight to Washington in November 2012 is equivalent to over £12K today. His November 2009 flight at just under £5k would cost just under £11K in today's money, adjusted for how air fares have changed since. For reference, if I wanted to book the most expensive first class, flexible ticket to Washington right now on BA, leaving tomorrow, it would cost just over £8k.

He obviously flew first class, so why lie to try to defend him? It's frankly embarrassing.
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I used to fly business class in the 1980s and 1990s to the US. The fare was usually around £3,000.
Try looking up fares on Skyscanner. They vary a great deal depending on demand. £6,000 to Washington is much more likely to be business class on a high demand day than first on a low demand one.
If you ever travelled anywhere on business you’d know.

Just checked your quoted price. That’s for one way you pillock. A first class return is £16k, and a business class return is £12k.
 
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Brewster's millions said:
Got to laugh at this. What a stooge!

You're claiming that he couldn't have flown to Washington on first class tickets because the flights would have cost more than the £6k he claimed in expenses, to use one example. Are you aware of the concept of inflation, and how the prices of air fares and indeed other goods and services have changed since he took those flights ten, fifteen years ago?

If you adjust the prices in his expenses to the latest equivalent values, using the air fare series in the CPI, then his £6k flight to Washington in November 2012 is equivalent to over £12K today. His November 2009 flight at just under £5k would cost just under £11K in today's money, adjusted for how air fares have changed since. For reference, if I wanted to book the most expensive first class, flexible ticket to Washington right now on BA, leaving tomorrow, it would cost just over £8k.

He obviously flew first class, so why lie to try to defend him? It's frankly embarrassing.
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Bravo!
That's him schooled.
 
west didsblue said:
Check who paid for his wedding.
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I think they should pay tax for all these gifts in kind (which I don’t believe they do today). Won’t raise billions but would make it look less like they’ve got their collective noses in the trough and perhaps they’ll accept less of these gifts if they have to dip in to their own pockets as well.
 
Maybe we should start charging for Schools and means test that or means test GP appointments.
Means test surgery or hospital stays. Paid for it in tax? Think they're arsed? It's a benefit suddenly.
Pay up if you can afford it - even if you only get modest income.

Loads of scope to fuck everyone, in it together.

Unless you're a politician that is. Not in it together.
 
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west didsblue said:
I used to fly business class in the 1980s and 1990s to the US. The fare was usually around £3,000.
Try looking up fares on Skyscanner. They vary a great deal depending on demand. £6,000 to Washington is much more likely to be business class on a high demand day than first on a low demand one.
If you ever travelled anywhere on business you’d know.
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Prices move in line with demand? Would never have thought of that one. Still doesn’t change the fact that he flew first class given the figures involved.

I do like your little jibe about ‘if you ever travelled anywhere on business’ though. Touchingly naive.
 
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Brewster's millions said:
Prices move in line with demand? Would never have thought of that one. Still doesn’t change the fact that he flew first class given the figures involved.

I do like your little jibe about ‘if you ever travelled anywhere on business’ though. Touchingly naive.
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Business class is the Del Boy version of first class effectively steerage for the Leonard Rossiter wanabees.
 
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Haha tories trying to find anything they can to slag starmer , more mental gymnastics than the olympics , lol, you look really sad taking the time to post this stuff albeit a couple are wumming
 
Gray said:
Upsetting 10 million pensioners is not going to get you re-elected in five years time.

If he had been honest and told people about it before the election then Labour would not have the majority they now have.
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Depends who the alternative is and, if it’s the same bunch as just dry bummed, I don’t think Labour will be worried
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
You were silent in the Political subforum here for the years your party was corrupt, immoral and inciting rhetoric to the brink of riots.

Now you’re posting 100 posts a day about Starmer as you can’t stand the fact you’re no longer in power.

It’s not a difficult concept to understand.
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tbf, I haven’t called anyone a rat faced **** for weeks.
 
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