The Labour Government

bluethrunthru said:
and yet they get more than us sooner than us I signed up to 65 - will get mine at 67 - wife signed up to 60 now has to wait until 68 - Europe laughs at our state pensions provision

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Yep, so I'm.not sure we need to continue with the cynical view of the triple lock as our pensioners having somehow hit the jackpot.
If Labour could find a way of taking from the very wealthy pensioners at this time fair enough but this strange attitude from so called Labour supporters is very odd.

In other words don't take money off pensioners you cunts. Find the 1.5 billion from somewhere else.
 
Kompany Car said:
This is fundamentally the problem, nobody wants to pay and everyone wants to take. Its all dont take it from me, take it from them over there.

Frankly its rather depressing.
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I’ll pay, and many more like me. Some of us are a little bit better off and expect to pay our share, yet the Tories have just given me a load of extra money in my pay packet when our social infrastructure is/has crumbled.

What the fuck were they playing at?
 
hilts said:
Yep, so I'm.not sure we need to continue with the cynical view of the triple lock as our pensioners having somehow hit the jackpot.
If Labour could find a way of taking from the very wealthy pensioners at this time fair enough but this strange attitude from so called Labour supporters is very odd.

In other words don't take money off pensioners you cunts. Find the 1.5 billion from somewhere else.
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I'd agree - tax capital gains as income - that fixes it
 
NI Blue said:
I'm an accountant and do tax returns for quite a few elderly clients. They don't have any benefits and rely solely on their pensions. Losing the winter fuel payment is a fill of heating oil etc. Didnt take long for labour to hit the ordinary folk
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Why would a pensioner living on state pension need an accountant?
 
bluethrunthru said:
what a load of BS. Who do you think have paid nothing into the system will get it?
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People who haven’t worked a single day in their lives? They exist.

The simple reality is our welfare state is unaffordable, too many people getting wage top ups. We need to see real wage growth else we are fucked and the public services are going to get worse no matter who is in charge. If Reeves can get private sector wages going by increasing public sector pay then all power to her, it’s a gamble and it’s going to be painful for a little while but it is about the only lever I can think of that she can pull - the only other one I can think of is introduce a new heavy corporation tax on profits where a firms median wage is below some arbitrary number the government sets but that will likely see unemployment rise (with wage rises).

If this is her plan then perhaps just be honest about it, your taxes are going to go up for a little while as we need to force this issue. Then we will cut them. I think the country would accept that if they can see the logic.
 
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