Marriedtoablue
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The Labour Government
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How big is the black hole then ?He was painting a picture of positivity under Labour before though with not a whiff of “things will get worse before they get better”.
And how on earth can he keep a straight face when lying about a surprise £22bn black hole, is beyond me. He must think we’re all idiots.
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lazerblue
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It is estimated that smoking has cost the NHS in England £2.6 billion per year.This tax year the taxes on Tobacco are predicted to be £8.8bn. The NHS reckons smoking related disease treatments cost it £17bn. There are also other costs to the economy you have to factor in.
taken from the nhs website
How big is the black hole then ?There’s a fair few idiots on here who believe the horseshit about £22bn.
Hook, line and sinker. Absolute stooges the lot of them.
BTH
Well-Known Member
Just you. Guessing any one of Hunt, Kwarteng, Zahadi, Sunak, Javid, Hammond or Osborne were more your thing?Is it just me.....Rachel Reeves. the annoying smiley full of shit fucker
Didn’t the Tories do the same after the financial crisis ? And what about Tories / Brexit and sunny uplands how’s is that going by the way ?I agree to an extent. However I don’t remember this fake acting “gosh it’s so much worse than we thought”. Especially when it is demonstrably a blatant lie.
And I don’t remember previously, SUCH a stark difference between pre-election talk of hope and sunny uplands, contrasted with post-election, “this is going to be REALLY bad”
Even the few people who actually voted for these tossers are thinking WTF????
QED. The same old same old story. My previous post:Thankfully, one need not rely on memory.
Now that we have had a chance to look at what has really been going on, I want to tell you the scale of the problem that we face.
...Today, our national debt stands at £770 billion. Within just five years it is set to nearly double to £1.4 trillion. To put it in perspective, that is some £22,000 for every man, woman and child in our country.
....Now, we knew this before. Soon,the independent Office for Budget Responsibility will set out independent forecasts that will show the scale of the problem we are in today. For the first time people will be able to see a really truly independent assessment of the nation’s finances and the size of the structural deficit.
This important innovation has been noticed around the world, and I believe will help restore confidence in our fiscal framework. But what I can tell you today – and what we did not know for sure before, in fact what we could not know, because the previous Chancellor of the Exchequer did not make the figures available – is how much the interest on our debt is likely to increase in the years to come.
David Cameron, June 2010
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They all do it. The plan is always the same:
1. Blame previous gov for leaving bad finances behind.
2. Increase taxes and make other unpopular changes.
3. Wait 4 years for people to forget. Maybe cut some taxes.
4. Call election.
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Thanks Vic.
Streetsweeper
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We haven’t given the Indian government money directly via the international development budget for 13 years. The only parts of the UK foreign aid budget that goes to India is for R&D on projects of ‘mutual financial benefit’ (that’s to secure our place in the rapidly growing internal Indian market - you know, bilateral trade) and via our multilateral contributions to NGO aid organisations like UNICEF and the International Red Cross and we don’t stipulate to them where they can spend their money, provided they’re not breaking sanctions.Honestly Vic, I’ve no idea why we haven’t cut the foreign aid budget by much more if the country is as “unexpectedly” broke as the lying twats make out. What on earth are we giving money to India for? A country with its own space program. It’s ridiculous.
Cutting money from foreign aid is a short-term benefit for long-term detriment. I’m not saying don’t do it, but at least know what you’re putting at risk by doing it. Incidentally, india will be the world’s most populous country by 2050. Favourable access to that market drives our foreign aid approach to India. Foreign aid is soft power, it’s not the international equivalent of £5 a month to Cat’s Protection League.
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stonerblue
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So ou've been to a pub/restaurant once all 'summer'. I go in proper pubs ever dai that don't serve grub. Should thee be forced to ban smoking in the garden?Went to a pub in Shropshire for lunch earlier in the Summer, it was fairly rammed. A few kids here and there. One thing nobody did was light up; despite this proposal being non-existent at the time. That's because most recognise that in this day and age it's common decency not to smoke in front of others. Any parent taking their kid to a pub while they get hammered is obviously unfit, but most aren't like that. At least not the ones I know.
Seems obvious that a blanket ban, as usual, is not the wa forward.
Apologies for the shit spelling, the letter next to T on m laptop isn't working.
stonerblue
Well-Known Member
Which statistics? The one that said beer garden smokers clog up the nhs or just the general ones?Do we disregard the overwhelmingly morbid statistics because you're one of the lucky ones?