The Labour Government

[stonerblue]

So what?

This is what I dislike about Labour and some Labour supporters. They hate people being well off. Who give a toss if someone whose paid thousands in in tax all their lives gets a few hundred quid back. I am not remotely fussed. Good on them, who cares. Some of them give it away to charity anyway.

This bitterness is a peculiar British disease. Hating anyong who is better off, so they like keying the side of a nice car.

Oh do fuck off with your twisting words shit. Read the post i responded to then try again.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Oh do fuck off with your twisting words shit. Read the post i responded to then try again.

I read your "Her parents own a house worth over half a million and have over 100k in the bank. They get wfa."

And replied with my answer. I am twisting nothing. If your post was trying to show an unfairness rather than unhappiness that your her parents get it, and I have misinterpreted, I might have been tempted to apologise, but that ship sailed with the Oh fuck off.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Does Robot Reeves get off on what she says?

I can't wait to see what she says in the budget. I'm just concerned we might see her sex face whilst she announces cuts.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Perhaps I am - but I will allow Labour a couple of years to see how things are panning out - won’t scream and cry over every policy they announce.

I’m reasonably balanced and a centre leaning voter.

We know you’re reasonably balanced and you think they need time to sort it out. That must be why they have taken this huge gamble but they won’t get time, tactical voting got them so many seats in parliament.
Those seats will change hands at the next local elections if Reeves doesn’t change her war on pensions. In the next budget we will see more of her unbalanced view on the over sixties
It won’t be forgotten.

 

[BlueHammer85]

How on earth do you figure that out? In your CSE maths equation, is housing and feeding asylum seekers completely free? I suppose it must be.

Publicly available information suggests that, as of July 2024, at least £318 million had been spent on the Rwanda scheme.

• £140 million paid to Rwanda in April 2022. This comprised £120 million for Rwanda’s Economic Transformation and Integration Fund (ETIF), which is designed to support economic growth in Rwanda. An advance payment of £20 million was also made to support Rwanda with the processing and operational costs for the first expected arrivals from the UK.
• £100 million paid into the ETIF in April 2023.
• £50 million paid into the ETIF in April 2024 (for the financial year 2024-25, these payments being made at the start of the financial year). There is some uncertainty about whether this payment was made. However, at a Public Accounts Committee meeting on 15 April 2024, the Permanent Secretary to the Home Office, Matthew Rycroft, said that this payment would be made “as soon as we have Royal Assent and ratification of the treaty”, which happened on 25 April 2024.
• £2 million in direct staff costs as of February 2024. These costs will be higher now.
• £2.3 million in legal fees as of February 2024. These costs will be higher now.
• An estimated £23.5 million in escorting costs by April 2024 (i.e., by the end of financial year 2023-24). This estimate comes from the Home Office, as reported in the National Audit Office’s March report.

These costs total around £318 million.

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Absolute waste of money and cost would have continued to rise had Labour not stepped in and stopped this failed scheme that would never work.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Reeves looks ill

 

[TinFoilHat]

Reeves looks ill

She just needs a couple of fuses changing.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Publicly available information suggests that, as of July 2024, at least £318 million had been spent on the Rwanda scheme.

• £140 million paid to Rwanda in April 2022. This comprised £120 million for Rwanda’s Economic Transformation and Integration Fund (ETIF), which is designed to support economic growth in Rwanda. An advance payment of £20 million was also made to support Rwanda with the processing and operational costs for the first expected arrivals from the UK.
• £100 million paid into the ETIF in April 2023.
• £50 million paid into the ETIF in April 2024 (for the financial year 2024-25, these payments being made at the start of the financial year). There is some uncertainty about whether this payment was made. However, at a Public Accounts Committee meeting on 15 April 2024, the Permanent Secretary to the Home Office, Matthew Rycroft, said that this payment would be made “as soon as we have Royal Assent and ratification of the treaty”, which happened on 25 April 2024.
• £2 million in direct staff costs as of February 2024. These costs will be higher now.
• £2.3 million in legal fees as of February 2024. These costs will be higher now.
• An estimated £23.5 million in escorting costs by April 2024 (i.e., by the end of financial year 2023-24). This estimate comes from the Home Office, as reported in the National Audit Office’s March report.

These costs total around £318 million.

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Absolute waste of money and cost would have continued to rise had Labour not stepped in and stopped this failed scheme that would never work.

Sure, not in dispute. But you are completely ignoring the cost of doing nothing.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Absolute waste of money and cost would have continued to rise had Labour not stepped in and stopped this failed scheme that would never work.

BTW, would you care to explain why it would never work? On face value, you would think that the prospect of being sent to Rwanda rather than being allowed to wait in the UK, would be quite a deterrent.

Similar worked very well in Australia and interesting that Germany are also considering this plan "that would never work".

 

[bluethrunthru]

Sure, not in dispute. But you are completely ignoring the cost of doing nothing.

this WAS doing nothing !! They only sent 4 volunteers to Rwanda - £318 million is the cost of doing nothing.