The Labour Government

[blueinsa]

You've just posted Starmer has said he'll stop accepting the free clothes?

And?

He was clearly taking free everything whilst being interviewed telling the world how appalling it was MP’s taking free gifts and how he would put a stop to it.

It’s not difficult mate to see what he is imo.

A liar and a hypocrite who has been outed.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

To be fair at least we know who is giving freebies to Labour unlike the previous shower of spivs and cheats who often hid their donations behind untraceable shell companies.

Robert Jenrick's top donor received loan from untraceable BVI firm - Tortoise

Tory leadership favourite accepted £75,000 from a company whose origins are unclear

www.tortoisemedia.com

And

Tories have accepted £2.6m from ‘shadowy’ donors since Boris Johnson became PM

Exclusive: Secretive groups that can keep donors anonymous have given £800,000 to ‘Red Wall’ Tory MPs since 2019

www.opendemocracy.net

 

[ganganvince]

You've just posted Starmer has said he'll stop accepting the free clothes?

Does that also include free accomodation £20,437 or event tickets £40,000 glasses £2,500? as the statement seems very specific clothes only.

 

[hcblue95]

Does that also include free accomodation £20,437 or event tickets £40,000 glasses £2,500? as the statement seems very specific clothes only.

No idea, I've not seen Starmer's comment. You'll have to ask blueinsa.

 

[hampshireblue]

The BBC are as good as you're going to get.

I find Channel 4 news to be pretty even. LBC over the course of a day are pretty centre ground too.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

And?

He was clearly taking free everything whilst being interviewed telling the world how appalling it was MP’s taking free gifts and how he would put a stop to it.

It’s not difficult mate to see what he is imo.

A liar and a hypocrite who has been outed.

You've said he was on record as saying he would put a stop to free gifts?

Can you cite this?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

No idea, I've not seen Starmer's comment. You'll have to ask blueinsa.

I don't think Starmer actually ever said he'd ban the acceptance of gifts by MPs or stop doingit himself. He's simply misremembered or imagined it.

 

[threespires]

Genuine question open to all, what sources are acceptable I see
GB news
BBC
The Telegraph
The Mail
The Sun
The Express
Have all been derided as sources recently.

I think there's two issues in play

(1) Agenda driven political propaganda masquerading as journalism of which multiple of the above outlets are guilty or in some cases is their sole purpose

(2) Click bait driven inanity masquerading as journalism. So for instance at one point earlier this morning 5 of the Guardians top 10 political articles were about Starmers clobber presumably in response to coverage in other outlets.

There is enough in that story for a single article about what the probity rules should or shouldn't be and maybe a minor second story about whether the government failed to recognise the difference in political optics between opposition and government. But the fact that story has generated as much 'print' as it has is a damning indictment of the state of journalism in the UK.

The changed business model for mainstream journalism, be it politics or sports, has completely trashed the quality and therefore value imo.

C4 is probably the best we have at the moment.

 

[threespires]

Without wanting to derail the thread, I doubt it lol
My son lives in Czech Republic and we went to the zoo in Jihlava last year when I visited. The monkey there showed it's arse to me too...perhaps it's just me hahaha. And as @Vic said ..they do other things too ;-)
Much prefer baby elephants.

Lol, you clearly attract the wrong kind of monkey! In fairness though you can't get much cuter than a baby elephant.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I hadn't realised that the 100k total was over a 5 year period, rather than one year.
Some of the things are fine - the PL giving him Euro Final tickets is hardly a surprise. One of the sports events was given by City earlier this year, and they must therefore be up to something that needs Starmer.

According to the i, Cameron managed to rack up 60k when he was LOTO, and that was 2005-2010 - 100k from 2019-2024 looks quite reasonable in comparison.

Starmer's £100,000 of gifts and tickets - and how it compares to Sunak, Johnson and May

Keir Starmer's declared freebies are much higher than any of his predecessors, and higher than any other MP since 2019

inews.co.uk

I don't have a problem in hospitality from football clubs, etc. Clubs like Crystal Palace and Norwich give them out because it makes their other guests feel good about themselves.

The clothing thing is just plain odd. I don't understand the point.