The Labour Government

[BigJoe#1]

If I've read previous government stuff right, the cost of a £2 cap was £500m a year, at £3 it's only £151m. It's proportionately more of a saving because it goes to compensate the bus companies for what they lose on fares. And at £3 that's much closer to what the average commercial fare would be. But costs have soared, particularly on driver wages (Brexit, then Covid meaning Amazon poached bus drivers for driving vans).

so someone who uses busses regularly, often not by choice, will incur a 50% rise in their travel costs.... well that seems okay doesn't it? Im sure the same will apply to all the Government ministers who are chauffeured up and down downing street too.... no? Just an increase in claimable travel expenses for them - seems fair.

 

[Don Karleone]

So, a maximum of a tenner a week extra, in certain areas. Alternatively, they can jump on their bike and do it for free.

Tough judgements, for all, but one that the frothers will jump upon.

It all adds up, especially for those who can't use bikes. I'm also yet to see a tough decision for those who can withstand it. So far, it's the most vulnerable who are taking the brunt.

 

[TinFoilHat]

It all adds up, especially for those who can't use bikes. I'm also yet to see a tough decision for those who can withstand it. So far, it's the most vulnerable who are taking the brunt.

Sir Keir Tebbit telling "working class" to get on their bikes. The modern version is probably Escooters.

 

[stonerblue]

Truss and Farage are individuals, and either no longer in power or haven’t actually been anywhere near it. So if they go to the US and appear at a rally, for example, there’s no repercussions in terms of the US-UK relationship after the election, because they have nothing to do with the UK government. No damage done.

The Labour Party sending staff over to help with the Democrat’s election campaign is an entirely different matter, as it inevitably suggests that the ruling UK party/UK government is taking sides in the election and openly preferring one outcome to another.

Depending on the election outcome, that could impact the UK’s relationship with its most important ally, and leave the UK worse off overall. That’s a party political issue impacting the UK, i.e. exactly what Starmer said he wanted to avoid. Once Labour gained power, they should not have allowed their staff to assist in the Democratic campaign, because doing so threatens the UK’s best interests.

Those are the facts of the matter, so I’m afraid a few crybabies on here will just have to deal with that, rather than pissing their pants when people spell it out for them.

All UK governments have done this in all US elections

 

[ganganvince]

So, a maximum of a tenner a week extra, in certain areas. Alternatively, they can jump on their bike and do it for free.

Tough judgements, for all, but one that the frothers will jump upon.

Per bus, if you need to use 2 say 1 to terminus and another on to college that's £20 extra.

 

[hilts]

You following me around again?

My views must really rankle.

No I'm on a thread in the political forum, it's where you spend all your time. It did go quiet for a couple of days with some of the purples though when Rocky got caught on film.

Anyhow just pointing out another untruth from one of the chuckle brothers.

 

[hilts]

Per bus, if you need to use 2 say 1 to terminus and another on to college that's £20 extra.

But that's only £20 a week, the guy will go as high as you like in defence of his party. If the purples turned on pensioners working class people have no chance with them. The purples don't actually care about the working classes. They invested a lot time over the years complaining about austerity, the gap between rich and poor and the behaviour. of politicians.

Then their lot got in and now they don't care because they never really did and have to defend them now. They are as dishonest as well.... a politician really.

 

[hilts]

so someone who uses busses regularly, often not by choice, will incur a 50% rise in their travel costs.... well that seems okay doesn't it? Im sure the same will apply to all the Government ministers who are chauffeured up and down downing street too.... no? Just an increase in claimable travel expenses for them - seems fair.

They can't afford the couple of hundred million I believe. Labour didn't half like to waffle about public transport. Cheap public transport for the masses and the environment.
Maybe they will.open another commission at some point.

zzzzzzzzz.....

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

So, a maximum of a tenner a week extra, in certain areas. Alternatively, they can jump on their bike and do it for free.

Tough judgements, for all, but one that the frothers will jump upon.

So an extra £40 a month. For someone’s who’s already struggling that’s a lot. A tough judgement that will effect the most vulnerable who often use the buses

You sound a bit like a Tory or maybe the new labour now.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

So an extra £40 a month. For someone’s who’s already struggling that’s a lot. A tough judgement that will effect the most vulnerable who often use the buses

You sound a bit like a Tory or maybe the new labour now.

To be fair, the increase isn’t a lot in the grand scheme of things but will add up over the year. And, yes, I do have sympathy for those struggling, for somebody to even have to use public transport, that has been neglected for years.

I go back to my own experiences of 3 years of use at approximately a fiver for a day return, going back 15 years. I thought it was a rip-off then but at £6 return, maximum, then I don’t think that’s bad.

As you mention the Tories, then one thing that did happen is that the minimum wage was raised from approx £9.00 per hour to nearly £11.50 over the last few years, giving people more money in their pocket. Still not great, and I’d like to see it much higher so that we don’t have to subsidise almost everything that those on a lower wage utilise.

Pay people a decent wage, that is my only angle.