The Labour Government

Churchlawtonblue said:
I just think it's interesting that this is the new home secretary?

I am also certain that this was entirely the kind if story your good self and several others would continually bring up about the last Conservative government. So you should probably think of it as a me bringing a little bit of balance to the debate at times, after all we are not all happy clappers. ;-)
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Didn’t have to go back 12 years to a non-story to find scandal about the previous Tory government.
 
bluethrunthru said:
would this be an awkward time to bring up the housing arrangements of Esther McVey and her husband Phillip Davies MP ?
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No go for it. Absolutely no objections from me whatsoever. Dodgy MPs should always be outed regardless of their allegiances. They all work for us.

FWIW I have high hopes for Starmers Government. But they arnt going to be infallible.
 
Vic said:
All those lockdowns, and don't leave home, and there was a drop off in births?
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Perfectly understandable, some households would have been experiencing home schooling for the first time, for others it might have been zoom calls to sibling, and for many it would have been neighbours kids about all day, every day that put fertile women off
 
Manc in London said:
Oldham is fairly unique then as it is happening across all developed countries. Maybe there are other variables. For example, increase in ethnic minority population.

As for the two child cap, it is folly to reject it. We need more younger people! A disproportionately high ageing population is damaging for the economy for a number of reasons (eg lower productivity and the increased tax burden).

An ageing population in Japan, alongside increased cost of property did substantial damage to Japan's economy a few decades ago. According to the same economists, these issues will likely lead to China meeting the same fate.
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Chinese pension age to rise.
 
Vic said:
Chinese pension age to rise.
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I had to Google Chinese pension age. It's 60 for men but '50 or 55' for women. Wow.

Will leave it up to experts who know far more than me but i would have thought they will have to do much more. The birth rate has dropped from 1.81 in 2017 to 1.16 in 2021. The birth rate in 1963 was 7.51! Bloody hell. I am guessing that was due to agriculture being so dominant.
 
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Manc in London said:
I had to Google Chinese pension age. It's 60 for men but '50 or 55' for women. Wow.

Will leave it up to experts who know far more than me but i would have thought they will have to do much more. The birth rate has dropped from 1.81 in 2017 to 1.16 in 2021. The birth rate in 1963 was 7.51! Bloody hell. I am guessing that was due to agriculture being so dominant.
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Another reason is the improvement of the medical system.
Before 1949, people lived like animal.
 
Manc in London said:
I had to Google Chinese pension age. It's 60 for men but '50 or 55' for women. Wow.

Will leave it up to experts who know far more than me but i would have thought they will have to do much more. The birth rate has dropped from 1.81 in 2017 to 1.16 in 2021. The birth rate in 1963 was 7.51! Bloody hell. I am guessing that was due to agriculture being so dominant.
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China implemented a two child policy in 2015 in order to boost the population (previously there had been a 1 child policy) . The only people this limit doesn't apply to are those that work on the boats that transport goods around the country.

The new policy will allow almost all Chinese people to have their preferred number of children. The benefits of the new policy include: a large reduction in abortions of unapproved pregnancies, virtual elimination of the problem of unregistered children, and a more normal sex ratio. All of these effects should improve health outcomes. Effects of the new policy on the shrinking workforce and rapid population ageing will not be evident for two decades. In the meantime, more sound policy actions will be implemented to meet the social, health, and care needs of the elderly population.

The effects of China’s universal two-child policy - PMC

In October, 2015, China’s one-child policy was replaced by a universal two-child policy. The effects of the new policy are inevitably speculative, but predictions can be made based on recent trends. The population increase will be relatively small, ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There are calls in India to enact a similar policy.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Good idea by Reeves, but I doubt she will be able to recover much, most was leant to Ltd companies that I suspect have folded.
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If fraud was committed then it can be recovered from the former owners if they are in the UK or their assets are in the UK. It's not really about recovering it all though.

They need to use these scandals to kill off the electoral chances of the conservative party for a generation. Another thing to consider would be voting rights for long term UK residents that don't have citizenship.
 
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