The Labour Government

[Mr Kobayashi]

You still spend very little on health per capita. About a 20th of what the UK did prior onto covid.

Are you measuring it as % of GDP (dollar equivalent) or actual buying power?

 

[blueparrot]

All those lockdowns, and don't leave home, and there was a drop off in births?

Yes, most people aren't irresposible, they had worries over their futures and job security, they probably had a drop of income. No surprise many put off starting a family.

 

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

You still spend very little on health per capita. About a 20th of what the UK did prior to covid.

China is a third world developing country.
UK, first world!

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

If fraud was committed then it can be recovered from the former owners if they are in the UK or their assets are in the UK. It's not really about recovering it all though.

They need to use these scandals to kill off the electoral chances of the conservative party for a generation. Another thing to consider would be voting rights for long term UK residents that don't have citizenship.

Very true, it's just very hard to prove that the fraud act was dliberate.

Personally I would prefer it if those that gave their mates PPE contracts were to be held to account. There were some damming reports in the last couple of years by the Public Accounts Committee and the National Audit Office condemning the Government procurement process which could and should IMO have led to enquiries into the conduct of a number of MPs and the Department of Health. This was all subsequently brushed under the carpet by the last Government.

 

[Manc in London]

China implemented a two child policy in 2015 in order to boost the population (previously there had been a 1 child policy) . The only people this limit doesn't apply to are those that work on the boats that transport goods around the country.

The new policy will allow almost all Chinese people to have their preferred number of children. The benefits of the new policy include: a large reduction in abortions of unapproved pregnancies, virtual elimination of the problem of unregistered children, and a more normal sex ratio. All of these effects should improve health outcomes. Effects of the new policy on the shrinking workforce and rapid population ageing will not be evident for two decades. In the meantime, more sound policy actions will be implemented to meet the social, health, and care needs of the elderly population.

The effects of China’s universal two-child policy - PMC

In October, 2015, China’s one-child policy was replaced by a universal two-child policy. The effects of the new policy are inevitably speculative, but predictions can be made based on recent trends. The population increase will be relatively small, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There are calls in India to enact a similar policy.

I was aware of the one child policy but 7.51 blew my mind.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

China is a third world developing country.
UK, first world!

OK fair enough but how do you justify having such low health care standards vs a space program and a massive Navy with an aggressive territorial expansion plan in the South China Sea.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Are you measuring it as % of GDP (dollar equivalent) or actual buying power?

Per capita

 

[mosssideblue]

Good idea by Reeves, but I doubt she will be able to recover much, most was leant to Ltd companies that I suspect have folded.

Mone will be sleeping with one eye open. There will be more like her too.

Prison time for those Government ministers and officials overseeing this fraud would also be welcome

 

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

OK fair enough but how do you justify having such low health care standards vs a space program and a massive Navy with an aggressive territorial expansion plan in the South China Sea.

Errr, military budget only 1.3~1.6% of the GDP, lower than medical system...

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Mone will be sleeping with one eye open. There will be more like her too.

Prison time for those Government ministers and officials overseeing this fraud would also be welcome

I’m anything but a hang ‘em and flog ‘em merchant, but in circumstances such as these it’s a shame the statutory maximum sentence for fraud in ten years.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Per capita

GDP per capita isn't such an accurate measurement. Purchasing power parity is better.

 

[mosssideblue]

I’m anything but a hang ‘em and flog ‘em merchant, but in circumstances such as these it’s a shame the statutory maximum sentence for fraud in ten years.

Considering the impact Covid had across the country and the sacrifices we made, hang the scrotes (flog them first obs)

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

GDP per capita isn't such an accurate measurement. Purchasing power parity is better.

It's just a measure of how much they spend on health care per person. And during Covid I looked it up and it was a 20th of what the UK spends. I guess there may be some very big disparities on the level of care people receive across China.

 

[Sale Moor Blue]

So already Labour true to form don't give a hoot about controlled immigration.
Cooper said initially that Labour don't believe in amnesties before announcing effectively to 70,000.
They have already scrapped the Rwanda scheme yet it was showing some sings of having an effect.
Absolute jokers.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

So already Labour true to form don't give a hoot about controlled immigration.
Cooper said initially that Labour don't believe in amnesties before announcing effectively to 70,000.
They have already scrapped the Rwanda scheme yet it was showing some sings of having an effect.
Absolute jokers.

I might frame this. It's absolutely beautiful.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I might frame this. It's absolutely beautiful.

It puts me in mind of Rooney’s rant about 93:20…

 

[mosssideblue]

So already Labour true to form don't give a hoot about controlled immigration.
Cooper said initially that Labour don't believe in amnesties before announcing effectively to 70,000.
They have already scrapped the Rwanda scheme yet it was showing some sings of having an effect.
Absolute jokers.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

So already Labour true to form don't give a hoot about controlled immigration.
Cooper said initially that Labour don't believe in amnesties before announcing effectively to 70,000.
They have already scrapped the Rwanda scheme yet it was showing some sings of having an effect.
Absolute jokers.

We could house them in the soon to be vacant private school buildings.

Cheaper than hotels.

4.9 years left. Tick tock.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

So already Labour true to form don't give a hoot about controlled immigration.
Cooper said initially that Labour don't believe in amnesties before announcing effectively to 70,000.
They have already scrapped the Rwanda scheme yet it was showing some sings of having an effect.
Absolute jokers.

I think it's fair to judge them on their record and that will require time. Cracking down on the smuggling gangs is clearly the right thing to do. It cant be hard to infiltrate them and also work out where these big rubber boats are coming from and whos buying them. However, I can say that reinstating people's right to claim asylum if they arrive here illegally seems a backward step. As it would seem to encourage more people to cross the channel illegally.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

It's just a measure of how much they spend on health care per person. And during Covid I looked it up and it was a 20th of what the UK spends. I guess there may be some very big disparities on the level of care people receive across China.

There are big disparities but that wasn't my reasoning, but it's a fair point. China doesn't buy in dollars because it produces most of the products it uses. They are the world's largest producer of generic drugs.