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Oh do fuck off with your Tebitt bullshit, where have I said people shouldn’t receive the heating allowance, I said many who didn’t need it we’re getting it and now won’t so that cash can be used elsewhere. I didn’t receive my cash from the state I fucking earned it, I chose the crap pay knowing I’d be able to retire earlier and lived within my means, if I’d had longer to do like many have and are still doing I’d be driving a train now. I know all about the state of pensions in Europe and how much they get, who’s faults that, mine I suppose. Is it my fault as well that supermarkets and social care pay low? Maybe pay higher wages and less on dividends.
Just leave it mate I never said it was your fault, you're just making stuff up. Your argument is people should have provided for themselves , I disagree with that. It's you that kept bringing your own situation into it.

If you don't want to come off like Norman Tebbitt try breathing and think about the logic of the arguments you make.

When you have PPT agreeing with your posts it's a good indicator you ain't getting the message over very well:-)
 
why are you paying for private health care and doctors?
My daughter developed a heart condition and has been in hospital three times already this year. She needs a bed at the heart hospital. There isn’t one so she had to go to a private doctor who will be the same one on the NHS.
Myself I’ve had to pay for a minor operation and care already. It’s more likely that old people will have to seek private care as they have more ailments NHS is on its knees. I’m pleased the doctors are getting the pay they deserve they saved my life twice already
I need every penny and I’m just annoyed they choose WFP.
I vote Labour because I believe they are on the right path and will solve the problems of the last government.
At my expense perhaps Starmers promise of a new Uk energy scheme comes about it may mean cheaper bills for all of us
 
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My daughter developed a heart condition and has been in hospital three times already this year. She needs a bed at the heart hospital. There isn’t one so she had to go to a private doctor who will be the same one on the NHS.
Myself I’ve had to pay for a minor operation and care already. It’s more likely that old people will have to seek private care as they have more ailments NHS is on its knees. I’m pleased the doctors are getting the pay they deserve they saved my life twice already
I need every penny and I’m just annoyed they choose WFP.
I vote Labour because I believe they are on the right path and will solve the problems of the last government.
At my expense perhaps Starmers promise of a new Uk energy scheme comes about it may mean cheaper bills for all of us
Sorry to hear that mate. I think that if you get any other benefits you retain the WFP ?
Best of luck for your daughter.
 
They should raise VAT on private school fees to 50% to pay for WFA for pensioners.

Problem solved.
That would cause an exodus of
1. British students to over full British schools.
2. Overseas students who pay much more than British ones. Loss of foreign income, but I’ve no idea of how much.
 
That would cause an exodus of
1. British students to over full British schools.
2. Overseas students who pay much more than British ones. Loss of foreign income, but I’ve no idea of how much.
Do overseas students pay more than local ones in private schools? I thought that was just a university thing.
 
That would cause an exodus of
1. British students to over full British schools.
2. Overseas students who pay much more than British ones. Loss of foreign income, but I’ve no idea of how much.
The conservative election vote winner decided boat people were to blame, all they have done is split the vote and driven racism in the country as a result lots of applications for our universities are down with the new rules of they can’t bring family with them.
It’s worth billions to the economy and some university will have to close

I don’t know if Labour will carry through with the plan as it’s the cause of our high immigration figures Reeves surely knows how valuable the University/Schools income is
 
I think they pay more in schools too, but I don’t know too much about it, tbh.

I don't think that's correct. There may be additional elements that they have to pay, but they all pay the same fees if they use the same level of service.

I've never seen an international element on the fees on private school websites.
 
International students pay more they make up the bulk of the billions to the treasury, its worth I don’t remember the figures but Universities students pay triple the amount.? That was from the shadow education minister
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Copy and paste I looked it up.
“Their real value has increased by 81% between 2010 and 2021. Economic consultancy London Economics estimates that international students starting in 2021/22 would bring economic benefits to the UK of £41.9 billion, have costs to the UK of £4.4 billion, and hence net economic benefits of £37.4 billion.28 May 2024”
 
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International students pay more they make up the bulk of the billions to the treasury, its worth I don’t remember the figures but Universities students pay triple the amount.? That was from the shadow education minister.
Wouldn’t they also actually pay up front as well unlike our students who pay off over years once they hit a certain wage bracket? If you took that away they’d be broke.
 
International students pay more they make up the bulk of the billions to the treasury, its worth I don’t remember the figures but Universities students pay triple the amount.? That was from the shadow education minister.

That's correct for universities. Cambridge medical school charges over £67k a year.

It's not true for private schools though.

The money isn't going the treasury though is it?

Unless you are talking about visa fees,the money goes direct to universities. If they don't pay upfront they are on short term payment plans with the individual universities.
 
That's correct for universities. Cambridge medical school charges over £67k a year.

It's not true for private schools though.

The money isn't going the treasury though is it?

Unless you are talking about visa fees,the money goes direct to universities. If they don't pay upfront they are on short term payment plans with the individual universities.

Talking to a mate who's a Dean he reckons not only have they got significant issues with overseas numbers from their traditional markets they've now got an increasing issue with arrears with international students.

The govt have vaguely alluded to the mess the HE sector is in but they will need to get their thinking caps on big time at some point cause the current situation is not sustainable.
 
That's correct for universities. Cambridge medical school charges over £67k a year.

It's not true for private schools though.

The money isn't going the treasury though is it?

Unless you are talking about visa fees,the money goes direct to universities. If they don't pay upfront they are on short term payment plans with the individual
International students pay more they make up the bulk of the billions to the treasury, its worth I don’t remember the figures but Universities students pay triple the amount.? That was from the shadow education minister
.
Copy and paste I looked it up.
“Their real value has increased by 81% between 2010 and 2021. Economic consultancy London Economics estimates that international students starting in 2021/22 would bring economic benefits to the UK of £41.9 billion, have costs to the UK of £4.4 billion, and hence net economic benefits of £37.4 billion.28 May 2024”

It was a TV discussion with the head of University and schools I think it must mean the total 37.4 billion will be food housing and all the other things the family of an international student needs
He said places were down by .5% already and it will mean closure of some universities
I don’t know for sure but say home student pays one thousand an international student will pay 9 thousand ?
It must mean your top private schools the ones none of us went to “Eton”etc.it’s a difficult choice for government to make but with the country seeking less immigration the government has to do something about it. The Conservative government stopped families from coming with the students

International students have to pay for healthcare and VISA’s
 
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The money isn't going the treasury though is it?
Not exactly, but it is in a sense. The huge international student fees basically subsidize the local ones, meaning that the treasury doesn't have to properly fund universities any more. Well, until the whole university ticking time bomb catches up with us. British students now pay more on average than American ones. And yeah, our loan terms are favourable, but that still means there's a shit ton of debt that someone's going to have to pay off at some point.
 

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