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Slightly off topic but I've noticed a lot of my Facebook "friends" moaning about Labour and Starmers stance on pensions and especially immigration on a daily basis the last few weeks. Not a fucking peep in the previous 14 years being governed by the most corrupt self serving shower of cunts we've ever had in government. I suspect this thread is exactly the same
 
Class becomes an issue when the well off working class seem to not care that the poor working class shoulder the burden. People have a short memory of where they came from in my opinion.

Again, Labour should be fucking everyone except the poor but that isn't going to happen is it?
What nonsense you spout. So you're in favour of pensioners paying 40% tax receiving the WFA being subsidised by someone on minimum wage? I've always said the way they've done it is clumsy. They need to change it and stop the cliff edge situation they've created-end of. But I also recognisr that the system needs some reform and changing the universality of this is a start. If you don't agree, tell us that you're happy with someone on £50k + pension should be subsidised by someone on £20k or even "the poor working class". If you're not, tell us the alternative.
 
Many don’t realise it was Labour who fundamentally changed public service pensions back in 2006, work longer pay more get less, it was Labour who implemented further increases in state pension ages.
Let’s face it most will have to work until 70, then even though you may live till 90, is it really living, you arent exactly going bungee jumping in your days off then, the money you have saved will be for your very expensive care home, I think if I got to 70, I’d sell up go and rent for the next 20 years and blow the fucking lot.

I retired 3 years ago at 60 on workplace pensions. Won't see state until 68. I own my house - does benefits pick up the rent if you sell up and go to rent
 
I'm fully reserving judgement till the budget is announced, if they go in with pure doom and gloom mode I won't be happy. You can be realistic about the state of the country without making us all feel miserable and hopeless. So please have some positives Reeves fs.
Uttered many times on the Kippax in the late 70s/early 80s!
 
Slightly off topic but I've noticed a lot of my Facebook "friends" moaning about Labour and Starmers stance on pensions and especially immigration on a daily basis the last few weeks. Not a fucking peep in the previous 14 years being governed by the most corrupt self serving shower of cunts we've ever had in government. I suspect this thread is exactly the same
You suspect right. It's uncanny.
 
Doesn’t look like the type who’ll be taking his hard drive with him.
Apparently, his family would kill him if he died and they had to pay IHT. That tax just brought in by the new government!
Funny bit is, the thick Brexit supporting wanker is off to Spain, who’ve recently elected a socialist PM, who’s just brought in a wealth tax.
Hope they absolutely sting the botox out of the slimy old shit..
 
Apparently, his family would kill him if he died and they had to pay IHT. That tax just brought in by the new government!
Funny bit is, the thick Brexit supporting wanker is off to Spain, who’ve recently elected a socialist PM, who’s just brought in a wealth tax.
Hope they absolutely sting the botox out of the slimy old shit..
He epitomises a horrible human trait. Someone who’s worked hard, and done well, who makes themselves unhappy at the thought of losing some of it.

Looked him up - left school at 15, trained to be a plumber, set his own business up, became the leading domestic plumbing services company in the country, floated on the stock exchange.

What an incredible story, and rather than be happy to give a bit back, even though he’ll always be alright, even though he must see homeless people every time he leaves the house, he wants to leave the country because his £20 million net assets might dip by a few percent. What a horrible ****.

Money fucks so many people up.
 
Tell me you're a Labour voter without telling me you're not a tory in disguise.

And by right people I meant poor people that need council houses, but you froth on with your race baiting garbage you non Labour Labour voting manifestation of a Turnip.
Council houses? The ones the Tories allowed to be flogged off? Good grief.
 
Yep that's right, have a race to the bottom. Why would you want to see part of the workforce worse off? Jealousy, chip on the shoulder( I could have said @chippyboy lol).
Who'd have thought that the politics of envy would mean saying train drivers are paid too much?
 
a post devoid of knowledge but big on R/W press rhetoric. Public service pensions aren't the golden ticket you believe they are. Every pension reflects contributions and length or service. My brother-in-law 9 years in the Army qualifies for a small pension. My wife 10 years in the Civil Service with a similar return. I was astonished when speaking to 2 friends a few weeks ago when on holiday one has long service in local govt one central govt - compared to my pensions in the private sector they are looking at no big deal.

My nieces husband retired from the Fire and Rescue Services at 50 a couple of years ago - long service and with contributions that would make the eyes of most of us water have at least left him sitting pretty.

The press will always find someone - probably left leaning or in what they consider a "non-job" like health and safety who get a decent payoff but the one's who get the big bucks are in Parliament - mostly those who tell you to hate other people rather than encourage you to ask your employer "why can't I have that" - example would be Liz Truss is 14 years my junior and is getting 10x my pensions for life for 49 days "service"
27% contributions to public sector pensions made by tax payers money. Immoral.
 
27% contributions to public sector pensions made by tax payers money. Immoral.
Ok. another one liner from the pensions and benefits expert. Which public sector are you referring to exactly-becuase they aren't all the same as I'm sure you haven't bothered to find out. Tell us your alternative. I know it may need a bit of thought and typing but over to you..
 
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