The Labour Government

TinFoilHat said:
Should be sacked and a by election called to replace him.

Sadly if they did Starmer would find him a role like he did Ashworth somewhere else.
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Will have 25 years in by the end of this parliament so looking at a pension of around 45k.
 
Quota Generation -:

How about the Government establishing a minimum removal quota of 30000 per month for illegal immigrants....360000 each year !!

Additionally, locate a 20 mile long section of marine bolsters across the Channel along with 24 hour border guard patrols on the small length of beach where the illegals land.

This small island cannot accommodate or subsidise Illegal Immigrants from tax payers pounds.
 
Gone for a Burton said:
Quota Generation -:

How about the Government establishing a minimum removal quota of 30000 per month for illegal immigrants....360000 each year !!

Additionally, locate a 20 mile long section of marine bolsters across the Channel along with 24 hour border guard patrols on the small length of beach where the illegals land.

This small island cannot accommodate or subsidise Illegal Immigrants from tax payers pounds.
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Where to begin....

We don’t subsidise “illegal immigrants” ….

You can’t claim welfare without a National Insurance number.

You can’t register with a doctor without a National Insurance number.

You can’t register with a dentist without a National Insurance number.

Where on earth do you get 360,000 “illegal “ immigrants from unless you’re conflating that number with asylum seekers ( 80% of which have their asylum application granted. )

It’s illegal to disrupt the safe passage of a refugee to seek asylum in the country of their choice) - United Nations Refugee Convention 1951.

It’s against the United Nations Convention “Laws of the Sea” not to render assistance to persons in danger on the sea.


Please stop reading the Daily Mail / Express.
 
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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Where to begin....
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Illegal immigration is illegal....against the laws of the country.

The UKs valued public services....NHS,Schools, Law & Order etc are swamped whereby YOUR tax pounds are not able to provide the basic service or treatment required.

Only those who are here legally,have paid an agreed amount in tax/NIC, have self funded accommodation and contracted employment should be allowed to stay.

Anyone here illegally should be deported at their own cost.

This country cannot afford to accommodate Illegal immigrants !!
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Where to begin....

We don’t subsidise “illegal immigrants” ….

You can’t claim welfare without a National Insurance number.

You can’t register with a doctor without a National Insurance number.

You can’t register with a dentist without a National Insurance number.

Where on earth do you get 360,000 “illegal “ immigrants from unless you’re conflating that number with asylum seekers ( 80% of which have their asylum application granted. )

It’s illegal to disrupt the safe passage of a refugee to seek asylum in the country of their choice) - United Nations Refugee Convention 1951.

It’s against the United Nations Convention “Laws of the Sea” not to render assistance to persons in danger on the sea.


Please stop reading the Daily Mail / Express.
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Our politicians need to be more honest and brave. There are huge problems ,(and benefits) associated with the scale of immigration we have seen over the last couple of decades.
If the right stopped blaming all social ills on these immigrants and perhaps looked to companies like amazon to pay tax into th UK coffers then we could afford the social infrastructure required to cope with immigration and diffuse the scapegoating of immigrants by the right. Instead we get stuck in silly right v left arguments while the rich get richer.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Where to begin....

We don’t subsidise “illegal immigrants” ….

You can’t claim welfare without a National Insurance number.

You can’t register with a doctor without a National Insurance number.

You can’t register with a dentist without a National Insurance number.

Where on earth do you get 360,000 “illegal “ immigrants from unless you’re conflating that number with asylum seekers ( 80% of which have their asylum application granted. )

It’s illegal to disrupt the safe passage of a refugee to seek asylum in the country of their choice) - United Nations Refugee Convention 1951.

It’s against the United Nations Convention “Laws of the Sea” not to render assistance to persons in danger on the sea.


Please stop reading the Daily Mail / Express.
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Some migrants at Bredbury Hall and the Cresta Court are being processed in as little as 2 to 3 weeks, housed and I'm assuming given NI numbers.

My niece works at BH and told me it's quite a quick turn around, all men, not many of them are polite with her and most definitely economic migrants.

Same with CC, a mate of mine who's a Blue now lives in Alty, he used the hotel to have a brew and send emails for his business when his house was busy. He met a Chinese employee who raised the same issues as my niece.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Where to begin....

We don’t subsidise “illegal immigrants” ….

You can’t claim welfare without a National Insurance number.

You can’t register with a doctor without a National Insurance number.

You can’t register with a dentist without a National Insurance number.

Where on earth do you get 360,000 “illegal “ immigrants from unless you’re conflating that number with asylum seekers ( 80% of which have their asylum application granted. )

It’s illegal to disrupt the safe passage of a refugee to seek asylum in the country of their choice) - United Nations Refugee Convention 1951.

It’s against the United Nations Convention “Laws of the Sea” not to render assistance to persons in danger on the sea.


Please stop reading the Daily Mail / Express.
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In effect we do subsidise illegal immigrants they don't pay tax or NI l
 
Perverted. It makes a value judgement between someone arriving in a boat or lorry below someone obtaining a tourist visa for the purpose of claiming asylum.

Makes more sense to offer a route to citizenship than have stateless citizens walking about and unable to leave the country.

www.bbc.co.uk

UK to reject 'dangerous journey' refugees citizenship

The Home Office change has been condemned by the Refugee Council and some Labour backbench MPs.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
hammocity said:
Some migrants at Bredbury Hall and the Cresta Court are being processed in as little as 2 to 3 weeks, housed and I'm assuming given NI numbers.

My niece works at BH and told me it's quite a quick turn around, all men, not many of them are polite with her and most definitely economic migrants.

Same with CC, a mate of mine who's a Blue now lives in Alty, he used the hotel to have a brew and send emails for his business when his house was busy. He met a Chinese employee who raised the same issues as my niece.
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That assumption is wrong. NINOs are given when someone is given the right to work. They don't get this until are granted refugee status or diplomatic protection.

@Ifwecouldjust.......
Asylum seekers and even refused Asylum seekers may see a GP and go to hospitals if they need it. They don't need a national insurance number.

This makes sense, people from developing countries can be more likely to have infections that endanger public health. We don't want these infections going untreated and worsening.

There is no way that cases are being rubber stamped like that. Only way that it's happening if those people have come from other accommodation and have been in the country longer.

Dispersal accommodation exists but once someone is granted asylum then they are evicted from that accommodation. There can be a delay between that grant of asylum and receiving right to work documents. At that time it is get a job or obtain universal credit and find private accommodation. They might hang on to obtain social housing but unless they are disabled or it's a family then it will be private accommodation and the housing benefit room rate for under 35s.
Refugees are not treated any better than citizens on this issue.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Perverted. It makes a value judgement between someone arriving in a boat or lorry below someone obtaining a tourist visa for the purpose of claiming asylum.

Makes more sense to offer a route to citizenship than have stateless citizens walking about and unable to leave the country.

www.bbc.co.uk

UK to reject 'dangerous journey' refugees citizenship

The Home Office change has been condemned by the Refugee Council and some Labour backbench MPs.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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So this would have meant Sir Mo Farah could not have become a British citizen...
 
Vic said:
So this would have meant Sir Mo Farah could not have become a British citizen...
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He was exempted because he was a child at the time. Technically it was a fraudulent claim as it wasn't his identity. Think such guidance would be ruled illegal if it applied to children. Knowingly creating stateless children with no route to citizenship.

This is how apartheid starts.
 
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