The Labour Government

[Vic]

Obviously it's a figure of speech for pensioners up and down the country, and I've never heard the wfa being called a benefit, how anyone can defend removing it, is beyond me.

So to be clear - are your parents actually freezing?

And is the rest of your post similar hyperbole (aka not really true)?

 

[hilts]

As they should be. Any idiot voting for a party principally on the basis of immigration policy deserves to be taken for the utter fool that they are.

It's no coincidence the loudest voices against immigration on here are sad old men and utter losers among the younger population.

If people just got on with their lives rather than being tricked into voting against the boogeymen of the day they might get more out of the time on this planet.

Getting on with their lives like posting on here endlessly everyday. Score:-) Congrats on being able to determine a posters age and if they 'lost' based on well erm... nothing

You certainly are one of life's winners.

 

[Rascal]

We’re all tories now. Except then leftie tossers like @Rascal, @Postman Pep and @Don Karleone ;)

Excuse me!!!!!!!!

I AM A FAR LEFT TOSSER

cheers :))

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Excuse me!!!!!!!!

I AM A FAR LEFT TOSSER

cheers :))

Commie bastard ;-)

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Any ides why the Government could not have just removed the benefit from pensioners who pay the higher rate of tax? Not having a degree in economics, nor not having worked for the bank of England for the best part of a decade I managed to think that up for myself ages ago... why couldn't the person living in number 11 do that, it seems a fairer solution?

I agree

 

[metalblue]

And I’d swing social Democrat a la Scandinavia economically. Education is paramount to enriching a population. We’re getting left behind by countries that need to better their children to improve their lives.

Immigration will never be solved, it’s just a perpetual debating point, whoever is in govenrment.

Voters going in to the next election wanting immigration solved will be”betrayed” by any government that gets voted in.

You’ll get no arguments from me about education being paramount. The problem as I see it is politicians know these seismic shifts in policy don’t pay dividends for 30 years plus, long after they are not in power, but the price needs to be paid today. It seems to me that politics today is so much based on being able to measure progress within a parliament and we, the voters, are probably to blame.

 

[liveandletdive]

It probably looks something like that kind of response, yes.

I guess there is just no hope for some people, trying to discuss with anyone from the left, is both not worth my time and a lost cause.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Getting on with their lives like posting on here endlessly everyday. Score:-) Congrats on being able to determine a posters age and if they 'lost' based on well erm... nothing

You certainly are one of life's winners.

You post on here far more than me. And of very little substance.

Just for reference I've filed you in the sad old man box. As you are both tedious and hypocritical. For the tripe you come out with you should be living up a tree dressed in hessian rags.

 

[hammocity]

Any ides why the Government could not have just removed the benefit from pensioners who pay the higher rate of tax? Not having a degree in economics, nor not having worked for the bank of England for the best part of a decade I managed to think that up for myself ages ago... why couldn't the person living in number 11 do that, it seems a fairer solution?

I've posted the same Joe plus Martin Lewis's idea of not paying it to people in Council Tax bands D and upwards, it's not rocket science but Starmer and Reeves didn't even publicly discuss it, they're a pair of champagne socialist who have no truck with the seniors of this generation.

If a Senior receives more than £218 per week they're generally not entitled to any benefits, the current pension for those over around 66 to 75 is £221 per week so no benefits and no WFA, that's a coincidental figure isn't it?

There's many of this generation who didn't have access to private pensions, especially women who brought up kids for many years that restricted them to no work or part time, no pension contributions for them. They're now suffering despite being the backbone of the working class economy. No luxuries for them going back 40-60 years, just a slog to get through life, they're now kicked in the balls by a non empathetic Prime Minister who wouldn't know poverty if it was wrapped up for Christmas. Somehow though the looney left on here support him and deride the Senior generation whilst defending other groups who haven't put a bean into our economy, bunch of jokers.

 

[KS55]

Any ides why the Government could not have just removed the benefit from pensioners who pay the higher rate of tax? Not having a degree in economics, nor not having worked for the bank of England for the best part of a decade I managed to think that up for myself ages ago... why couldn't the person living in number 11 do that, it seems a fairer solution?

They don’t like messing with benefits because it causes extra admin and tension between the recipient and the authorities. In contrast people just accept tax changes as a routine occurrence.

 

[stonerblue]

This is what our international allies think of our reputation btw:

JD Vance takes aim at UK and Europe over free speech and democracy

JD Vance told European and UK leaders "there is a new sheriff in town" in a speech that roamed across the continent, taking aim at perceived "backsliding".

news.sky.com

Not a jot about whether we listen to an advisory ICJ decision on the Chagos Islands btw but lots on the collapse of freedom of speech in the UK and how the UK and Europe's biggest security threat isn't from Russia or China but its own disastrous immigration policies.

Oh no, J D fucking Vance.. what a racist prick he is

 

[Rascal]

A quick reminder, there is no "benefit" to being on WELFARE.

When the then Government introduced policies they used the term "WELFARE STATE" not benefit state.

Welfare was introduced so that people could fare well when times were hard.




I am of the opinion that if the current language that is broadly used i.e Benefits, was not commonplace then we would use the proper term welfare.

It would have been much harder for that simpleton Reeves to remove the WFA if it was seen as welfare rather than a benefit. The people receiving WFA would fare well in the cold, rather than benefit from it being cold.

The nuance of language hey!

 

[stonerblue]

What part of his speech did you disagree with?

I couldn't think of anything more ridiculous than wanting someone arrested for silently praying. Do you really think you're on the right side of history with those Stalinist beliefs?

Nobody was arrested.
I could. How about wanting someone locked up for murder because they've had an abortion?

 

[stonerblue]

I don't think Vance was making an anti-abortion point, it was part of a broader theme of the free speech clampdown in the UK, he even said 'we may not agree with you but will defend your right to say it', or in the UK's case, even think it!

Hopefully it's a wake-up call for Europe. The question for the US is why should they spend billions guaranteeing Europe's security if our shared values are no longer there. Reading West Didsblue's posts, they would be extreme even for the 1950's Soviet Union that NATO was formed to defend. Why should the US pay for the protection of people like him when US taxpayers would much rather have that money spent at home?

'''Shared values'' ??
trump, musk and google have all removed content they don't like from the internet. Free speech eh..

 

[stonerblue]

Sorry mate, you’re fucking nuts just like KDBot and the other bellends who liked your post.

hahahahaha

 

[stonerblue]

Excuse me!!!!!!!!

I AM A FAR LEFT TOSSER

cheers :))

gutted i'm not in there.

 

[hilts]

You post on here far more than me. And of very little substance.

Just for reference I've filed you in the sad old man box. As you are both tedious and hypocritical. For the tripe you come out with you should be living up a tree dressed in hessian rags.

Well the first part is just a lie and the rest is just your normal boring shite.

I would probably see someone about your obsession with posting about old men though it's very fucking weird.

Old men
Concentration camps
Telling posters to commit suicide

Haha fucking normal you:-)

Ttfn

 

[Rascal]

I couldn't think of anything more ridiculous than wanting someone arrested for silently praying. Do you really think you're on the right side of history with those Stalinist beliefs?

Why are those beliefs Stalinist?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Well the first part is just a lie and the rest is just your normal boring shite.

I would probably see someone about your obsession with posting about old men though it's very fucking weird.

Old men
Concentration camps
Telling posters to commit suicide

Haha fucking normal you:-)

Ttfn

Not at all. You don't post any of your own views other than when it gets to over population and Immigration.

Sounds a lot like you're an antinatalist who doesn't practice what he preaches. Only pointing this out to you.

You're just pale imitation of Mr Cheese.
I honestly couldn't give a toss about anything you say as you're a pub bore without two brains cells to rub together and rarely offer anything of insight. "Purples" is an example of this.

 

[Rascal]

What part of his speech did you disagree with?

I disagreed with the start, then went onto disagree with the middle and i disagreed at the end. The man is a fucking fruitcake.

I would love it if somebody came to prominence in the Labour party who had the balls to tell America to get to fuck, close all your bases in the UK and fuck off.