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any reports have only been in the press - no actual announcements have been made - no policy issued. You can't U-turn on something you were not going to do.
Leaking bad news in the press ahead of the event..... it's the oldest trick in the book.

Sometimes they leak really, really bad news so they can reign it in a bit and make it look like they're listening and care. Other times they'll try and bury bad news on a day when something significant happens in the hope it won't get noticed.

Don't you know they're, even with an absurd majority, facing a rebellion from their own members in Parliament?

Never mind you'll learn.
 
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Streeting on with Kunsberg talking sense, never thought I would say that.
 
It’s a bit of a puzzle how a party can shout from the sidelines for years about how under funded the NHS is and if they where in power it wouldn’t be to then see that party gain power and within months we are told by them it is and I quote “addicted to overspending”

The NHS is underfunded. Labour increased funding by £25 billion for the next two years in the Autumn budget. It’s the biggest increase since 2010.

Banging on about savings and overspending is par for the course, along with ‘cutting red tape’ and all that bollocks. All Govts do that as much for the headlines than anything else. I think it’s counterproductive but I’m not the target audience and that audience hates Labour anyway.
 
Streeting on with Kunsberg talking sense, never thought I would say that.
Disagree, he talked total idealistic bullshit that he'd been programmed to say... oh and he never answered any questions, was wholly intent on talking over her to reduce the time she had to press him on matters.

He is your ideal "out of the box" media trained politician. Couldn't explain why he'd done a 180 degree turn on saying "I won't do a top down reform of the NHS" to announcing exactly that.

All Labour politicians act like they've had a full frontal lobotomy.... not too dissimilar to their Tory friends.
 
Disagree, he talked total idealistic bullshit that he'd been programmed to say... oh and he never answered any questions, was wholly intent on talking over her to reduce the time she had to press him on matters.

He is your ideal "out of the box" media trained politician. Couldn't explain why he'd done a 180 degree turn on saying "I won't do a top down reform of the NHS" to announcing exactly that.

All Labour politicians act like they've had a full frontal lobotomy.... not too dissimilar to their Tory friends.
Not to mention the reform shower..
 
The NHS is underfunded. Labour increased funding by £25 billion for the next two years in the Autumn budget. It’s the biggest increase since 2010.

Banging on about savings and overspending is par for the course, along with ‘cutting red tape’ and all that bollocks. All Govts do that as much for the headlines than anything else. I think it’s counterproductive but I’m not the target audience and that audience hates Labour anyway.

You would make a great spin doctor Bob.
 
Is the increase in funding a spin or fact?

‘NHS England's ring-fenced revenue budget will increase by 4.7 per cent this year to £181.4 bn and then another 3.3 per cent next year to £192 billion’ @NHSConfederation

From under funded to addicted to spending in months Bob.

Streeting is even managing to bring out the inner Tory in most of you ;-)
 
From under funded to addicted to spending in months Bob.

Streeting is even managing to bring out the inner Tory in most of you ;-)

I’ll take the win on the increased spending over the next two years.

Given I spent the eighties working in the City as a broker, quaffing champers and snorting coke off the thighs and bellies of strippers, ‘inner Tory’ isn’t quite the burn you think it is :)
 
any reports have only been in the press - no actual announcements have been made - no policy issued. You can't U-turn on something you were not going to do.
Lol. Hostile media outlets making stuff up because they are "anti-labour" .... like the Guardian...

 
500 votes this ghoul scraped home by in the GE. Wouldn't have changed much but would of narrowed down my "tough choice" as to which Labour MP I despise the most to just Reeves and Starmer.

 
500 votes this ghoul scraped home by in the GE. Wouldn't have changed much but would of narrowed down my "tough choice" as to which Labour MP I despise the most to just Reeves and Starmer.


I think I’ve met maybe a dozen MPs and ministers through work over the past 20-odd years. Rory Stewart and Michael Meacher were the only two I met who seemed like real human beings. The rest appeared to to be various shades of egotistical sociopathy.
 
Serious question because it a line pursued by the last lot -

How do you simply claim benefits and live life on benefits whilst driving a Motabilty Car as a choice and with ease because I don't see it.

I'd like to think that this week Labour will set out their provisions and they are acceptable but I am not sure.

In the past its helped Govt's to push people onto unemployment benefits but when that goes up it isn't then it seems to have been DLA - then it wasn't.

Where I struggle is after 14 years of slashing mental health support and recruiting people as doctors who are not really doctors yet why is people being diagnosed with mental health issues a surprise? Why is it a surprise that after facing a worldwide pandemic from a virus that was novel - ie unknown - a number of people continue to be affected by it? And there are other issues I can raise however lets see what the proposals are but applying the bias of 10 years ago courtesy of advisers you will never get it right.
 
Serious question because it a line pursued by the last lot -

How do you simply claim benefits and live life on benefits whilst driving a Motabilty Car as a choice and with ease because I don't see it.

I'd like to think that this week Labour will set out their provisions and they are acceptable but I am not sure.

In the past its helped Govt's to push people onto unemployment benefits but when that goes up it isn't then it seems to have been DLA - then it wasn't.

Where I struggle is after 14 years of slashing mental health support and recruiting people as doctors who are not really doctors yet why is people being diagnosed with mental health issues a surprise? Why is it a surprise that after facing a worldwide pandemic from a virus that was novel - ie unknown - a number of people continue to be affected by it? And there are other issues I can raise however lets see what the proposals are but applying the bias of 10 years ago courtesy of advisers you will never get it right.
I had to live for a few years on benefits to look after my mother, and it was a miserable pittance. After my caring role finished, I ended up having to claim job seekers allowance, which resulted in less money and was impossible to survive on. Fortunately, I managed to find employment quite quickly in my old role, and willingly repaid the money my brother had been sending me on a monthly basis just to get by.

I've friends that have never claimed benefits in their lives and know full well what my situation was in those days, but apparently, according to them, my struggles were purley down to my ignorance of how to play the system.

I walked the streets for a few hours once hoping to find a discarded penny or two so I could buy a small tin of baked beans for my tea. I had no food in the cupboard, I was 2p short, and I failed, which is when I called my brother and asked him for help.

Some will call that charity, which is a good thing. Others will say when governments are properly looking after their people, there is no need for charity.

That was my experince of 'life on the dole' and I'll never forget the threat of being sanctioned after I had trudged through the snow for nearly an hour to sign on because I had arrived 10 minutes late. It ain't that great being a workshy scrounger, but those that have no understanding or experience of what it is like will persist with their ignorant opinions based on the bullshit spouted by their preferred right wing media outlets.
 
The proposal to take over NHS ENGLAND is exactly the wrong solution. It will result in chronic underfunding as it did in the past. The correct solution to duplication for example is for the gov to butt out. Make NHS England genuinely independent and negotiate a budget and key targets just like any company negotiating with the board.
?? When in the past was NHS England taken over?
 

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