Don Karleone
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More fucking lies.
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More fucking lies.
More fucking lies.
Was that last night?
We may not be sending F35 bits direct to Israel but they are getting there.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Spoke to someone yesterday who genuinely thinks Starmer is a communist. Unbelievable.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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More fucking lies.
Since 2024 We do not send them to Isreal .... we send them to the USA (“The global distribution of F-35 components is controlled by the US Government-led F-35 programme.)
The components are the property of the US Department of Defence.
TinFoilHat
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Can't wait until the Torygraph to get hold of our train drivers pay offer as i assume it will be the same for all other companies...
BobKowalski
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Spoke to someone yesterday who genuinely thinks Starmer is a communist. Unbelievable.
Come again? There are many accusations you can level at Starmer, but communist?
It’s a worry.
gordondaviesmoustache
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I’ve got a better one. Know someone who once told me Sunak was a Marxist!Come again? There are many accusations you can level at Starmer, but communist?
It’s a worry.
BobKowalski
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I’ve got a better one. Know someone who once told me Sunak was a Marxist!
You need a better class of acquaintances :)
gordondaviesmoustache
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Nothing wrong with not living in an echo chamber, mate.You need a better class of acquaintances :)
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Starmer needs to stop obsessing over farage, he is only giving the frog faced **** more oxygen
Bournemouth Blue
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They are almost as bad as Manchester United.
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Will all be one company soon, I assume there will be steps to standardise pay?Can't wait until the Torygraph to get hold of our train drivers pay offer as i assume it will be the same for all other companies...
TinFoilHat
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Background talks already going on about the aspirations of GBR.Will all be one company soon, I assume there will be steps to standardise pay?
From what I've been told the treasury are the ones being the issue.
For example as a 'welcome' all GBR staff would be afforded free national rail travel (with conditions such as dates/services it cannot be used) the cost is 'nominal'.
It's going to take a while to sort.
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As long as they don't go down the agency route for "unskilled " staff.
ASLEF may not like it, but the logical thing would be to get back to the "link" system whereby the senior drivers get the best routes and pay. But whereas a steam driver could drive virtually any steam loco, changing routes means changing the type of traction. A sprinter to a HST may need training (and on new routes).Will all be one company soon, I assume there will be steps to standardise pay?
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I know my union has started a campaign against increasing agency staff. Not sure if the others will follow.As long as they don't go down the agency route for "unskilled " staff.
Are agency staff much use? If working trains, do they know the rule book for safe working of trains? If Northern still has a staff shortage for ticket offices, would they not prefer to recruit direct staff as general purpose relief rather than resort to paying more to an agency?I know my union has started a campaign against increasing agency staff. Not sure if the others will follow.
Are there really any "unskilled" jobs left on the railway since porters disappeared?
TinFoilHat
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My own experience they are just told to show up and do what they are told.Are agency staff much use? If working trains, do they know the rule book for safe working of trains? If Northern still has a staff shortage for ticket offices, would they not prefer to recruit direct staff as general purpose relief rather than resort to paying more to an agency?
Are there really any "unskilled" jobs left on the railway since porters disappeared?
Most of them just sat in the messroom playing on their mobiles rather than what they were employed for.
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Who would replace Starmer ? the WFA and the two child benefit cap might prove to much at the next election.
He’s a solid boring PM who gets on with the job that is what I voted for.
He’s a solid boring PM who gets on with the job that is what I voted for.
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