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You'd say that? Gosh, I'm so surprised. And a like from Hampshire Blue as well. My goodness, blow me over with a feather.
Say what, that the headline probably resembles nothing like the story?

Been busy relaxing today but noticed that nobody has even mentioned the actual story. Anybody, on behalf of HB care to elaborate on how the current UK government have given a backhander of £6 mil to one of their employees father?
 
Because I'm an idiot I did go and find and read the story. Quite why I bothered I don't know. Firstly it's an Irish politics story and secondly it's just word soup to imply that something might be amiss when as far as I can tell there's absolutely no evidence to support that. It's a complete none story.

The people who chose to ignore it were wiser than me and anybody looking at it as evidence of it being any other than clickbait need to have a good look at themselves.
 
Because I'm an idiot I did go and find and read the story. Quite why I bothered I don't know. Firstly it's an Irish politics story and secondly it's just word soup to imply that something might be amiss when as far as I can tell there's absolutely no evidence to support that. It's a complete none story.

The people who chose to ignore it were wiser than me and anybody looking at it as evidence of it being any other than clickbait need to have a good look at themselves.
I apologise, mate. Replying probably drew some interest but the fact that it was posted on here, without any context, forced a reply out of me.

Even a few minutes spent looking for a story with that headline, is a few minutes stolen. Will remind myself to drive-past, like I do with the majority of certain posters on here.

Shame really, we’re all Blue.
 
You'd say that? Gosh, I'm so surprised. And a like from Hampshire Blue as well. My goodness, blow me over with a feather.
And you accused me of stalking and blocked me! So you wouldn't know I had made a similar comment. Tosser!

Hertz never did have the good grace to let us know where it came from.
 
Because I'm an idiot I did go and find and read the story. Quite why I bothered I don't know. Firstly it's an Irish politics story and secondly it's just word soup to imply that something might be amiss when as far as I can tell there's absolutely no evidence to support that. It's a complete none story.

The people who chose to ignore it were wiser than me and anybody looking at it as evidence of it being any other than clickbait need to have a good look at themselves.

It's a pretty shocking article that does it's best to avoid mentioning it's the Irish Government paying money to a company in Ireland, housing asylum seekers in Ireland, via McSweeney's dad's accountancy firm.

It also does well to bury the details that McSweeney's dad says he's not the recipient of the money, although in typical Daily Mail style it pops in the statement, "Typically, accountants advise on company structure and handle registration and incorporation obligations," followed by "But Mr McSweeney senior dismissed a suggestion he was benefiting directly from the contracts."

That "But" makes no sense, except to confuse the part where the Daily Mail suggests it's pretty normal for accountancy firms to be names as fronts for other firms.

And of course, if you read the comments, it's totally worked. Pages and pages of them all assuming it is UK taxpayers money, and that Starmer personally signed the contract.

Still, nothing new for the Mail. They've been doing similar for years. Cleverly written headline, a dozen paragraphs attacking their target, and then, once they know 95% of people have stopped reading, the paragraph giving the actual facts that they use to defend the article if anyone complains.
 
It's a pretty shocking article that does it's best to avoid mentioning it's the Irish Government paying money to a company in Ireland, housing asylum seekers in Ireland, via McSweeney's dad's accountancy firm.

It also does well to bury the details that McSweeney's dad says he's not the recipient of the money, although in typical Daily Mail style it pops in the statement, "Typically, accountants advise on company structure and handle registration and incorporation obligations," followed by "But Mr McSweeney senior dismissed a suggestion he was benefiting directly from the contracts."

That "But" makes no sense, except to confuse the part where the Daily Mail suggests it's pretty normal for accountancy firms to be names as fronts for other firms.

And of course, if you read the comments, it's totally worked. Pages and pages of them all assuming it is UK taxpayers money, and that Starmer personally signed the contract.

Still, nothing new for the Mail. They've been doing similar for years. Cleverly written headline, a dozen paragraphs attacking their target, and then, once they know 95% of people have stopped reading, the paragraph giving the actual facts that they use to defend the article if anyone complains.
Thanks for the more detailed synopsis. Sounds like the Daily Mail don’t have to do much to get the country angry, as shown on here by the cut and paste without checking any of the detail.

Be interesting to see if there’s a rebuttal to this response as, if the truth be known, you could’ve just made that up, just like the Mail. Not that I’m saying you would, but how can people like HB trust you if they haven’t actually read the article?
 
It's a pretty shocking article that does it's best to avoid mentioning it's the Irish Government paying money to a company in Ireland, housing asylum seekers in Ireland, via McSweeney's dad's accountancy firm.

It also does well to bury the details that McSweeney's dad says he's not the recipient of the money, although in typical Daily Mail style it pops in the statement, "Typically, accountants advise on company structure and handle registration and incorporation obligations," followed by "But Mr McSweeney senior dismissed a suggestion he was benefiting directly from the contracts."

That "But" makes no sense, except to confuse the part where the Daily Mail suggests it's pretty normal for accountancy firms to be names as fronts for other firms.

And of course, if you read the comments, it's totally worked. Pages and pages of them all assuming it is UK taxpayers money, and that Starmer personally signed the contract.

Still, nothing new for the Mail. They've been doing similar for years. Cleverly written headline, a dozen paragraphs attacking their target, and then, once they know 95% of people have stopped reading, the paragraph giving the actual facts that they use to defend the article if anyone complains.
Really ?
It's a pretty shocking article that does it's best to avoid mentioning it's the Irish Government paying money to a company in Ireland,
About a quarter of the way through the article ...
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What state ? The Irish state! Thats pretty unequivocal No?

Other Irish clues...

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or this one..


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Or this one ...

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Or this one...


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Maybe they could have stuck leprechaun in here or there .
 
And you accused me of stalking and blocked me! So you wouldn't know I had made a similar comment. Tosser!

Hertz never did have the good grace to let us know where it came from.
Its the Mail Hants, look carefully for those " hidden" Irish references - See above.
 
Really ?

About a quarter of the way through the article ...
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What state ? The Irish state! Thats pretty unequivocal No?

Other Irish clues...

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or this one..


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Or this one ...

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Or this one...


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Maybe they could have stuck leprechaun in here or there .
So, you understood it had nothing to do with the UK government so decided to post a misleading headline for your fellow Blues.

Thank you for the admittance.
 
Oh no , can't you bear to look !
That really says it all , I won't look at the story, it must be a fairy tale for the gullible .
Open your eyes ffs
Maybe post a link rather than a screenshot then.

It’s actually quite sad and a bit pathetic that you post little excerpts of it that help your argument without giving us the benefit of seeing the whole story.
 
Say what, that the headline probably resembles nothing like the story?

Been busy relaxing today but noticed that nobody has even mentioned the actual story. Anybody, on behalf of HB care to elaborate on how the current UK government have given a backhander of £6 mil to one of their employees father?
If you had read the article, which I wasn't going to do for you, then you would have seen at no point did it suggest the UK government gave anybody anything , quite the opposite ......
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The point was that throughout the years of the Tory government, they were accused by yourself and others of cronyism and taking cash for themselves and their " mates" , sometimes with good reason but often not, the looking after their mates trope was just bandied around. Here was an example in Ireland of McSweeneys family doing just that , his Dad and his cousin in the government. The asylum gravy train is a big issue in Ireland as it is here. At no point does it say McSweeney is at fault only that he might be embarrassed . If it was a Tory whose Dad was making money out of migrants in Ireland you would make the same point. If you read the article you wouldn't have had to run your mouth off about " the UK government and backhanders "
 
If you had read the article, which I wasn't going to do for you, then you would have seen at no point did it suggest the UK government gave anybody anything , quite the opposite ......
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The point was that throughout the years of the Tory government, they were accused by yourself and others of cronyism and taking cash for themselves and their " mates" , sometimes with good reason but often not, the looking after their mates trope was just bandied around. Here was an example in Ireland of McSweeneys family doing just that , his Dad and his cousin in the government. The asylum gravy train is a big issue in Ireland as it is here. At no point does it say McSweeney is at fault only that he might be embarrassed . If it was a Tory whose Dad was making money out of migrants in Ireland you would make the same point. If you read the article you wouldn't have had to run your mouth off about " the UK government and backhanders "
In the Labour thread? All i said was that the headline was bullshit, which proved correct. Did you post that believing the story behind it, or because you just liked to post a headline regardless. Either way, glad you took the time to read it and understand the detail.

That’s 10 minutes of my life that I won’t get back, but at least I didn’t spend it being angry about a Mail headline.

Good evening, may tomorrow bring us all a better day
 
If you had read the article, which I wasn't going to do for you, then you would have seen at no point did it suggest the UK government gave anybody anything , quite the opposite ......
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The point was that throughout the years of the Tory government, they were accused by yourself and others of cronyism and taking cash for themselves and their " mates" , sometimes with good reason but often not, the looking after their mates trope was just bandied around. Here was an example in Ireland of McSweeneys family doing just that , his Dad and his cousin in the government. The asylum gravy train is a big issue in Ireland as it is here. At no point does it say McSweeney is at fault only that he might be embarrassed . If it was a Tory whose Dad was making money out of migrants in Ireland you would make the same point. If you read the article you wouldn't have had to run your mouth off about " the UK government and backhanders "
Haha. You’ve made yourself look a right twat here defending posting an article headline about a relative of an aide to the PM getting a contract from a foreign government in a foreign country like it’s supposed to have any relevance to Starmer. It’s desperate stuff really.
 
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If you had read the article, which I wasn't going to do for you, then you would have seen at no point did it suggest the UK government gave anybody anything , quite the opposite ......
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The point was that throughout the years of the Tory government, they were accused by yourself and others of cronyism and taking cash for themselves and their " mates" , sometimes with good reason but often not, the looking after their mates trope was just bandied around. Here was an example in Ireland of McSweeneys family doing just that , his Dad and his cousin in the government. The asylum gravy train is a big issue in Ireland as it is here. At no point does it say McSweeney is at fault only that he might be embarrassed . If it was a Tory whose Dad was making money out of migrants in Ireland you would make the same point. If you read the article you wouldn't have had to run your mouth off about " the UK government and backhanders "
That's a very long squirm.
 
Because I'm an idiot I did go and find and read the story. Quite why I bothered I don't know. Firstly it's an Irish politics story and secondly it's just word soup to imply that something might be amiss when as far as I can tell there's absolutely no evidence to support that. It's a complete none story.

The people who chose to ignore it were wiser than me and anybody looking at it as evidence of it being any other than clickbait need to have a good look at themselves.
Glad you did. Exposed him and those who defended it (especially any who criticised people for not reading it even though they hadn't read it).
 
Of all the people Starmer follows on X why, I fail to understand, does he follow Gary Neville?
In fairness, and without taking any political side when making my point, MP’s need as many gullible people voting for them as they can muster. If he follows GNIAC, then he’s got a chance of attracting a number of clearly gullible people who also follow GNIAC. It would obviously fall apart as a strategy if voting required an IQ test, but until such point, he’s trying to spread his influence to those of limited intelligence.
 
I gave up on reading the papers a long time ago. Owned by billionaires to gently feed you the narrative they want to portray.

Nothing wrong with that, of course, and each to their own. Just not for me.

If, as you believe, the government, or Starmer personally, gave a multi-million quid contract to an aid, basically corruption, I take it that’s a front page bombshell?

Had the news on for 10 minutes this morning, absolutely nothing on there. Will wait for you to read it and give us the lowdown.

Thanks for reading.

One of the biggest shames of the last few decades is how politicised, through ownership in particular, the media has become and it’s been that effective, both sides have managed to convince the other the bbc is somehow the biased one.

It’s the social media world we live in unfortunately though. Most won’t get past 160 characters, some will manage to get to the end of a newspaper article and even less than ever will seemingly read a book.

It’s a big part of why so many are going to extreme views so quickly (not talking about anyone on here specifically).
 

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