The Labour Government

[threespires]

They’ve moved to 3 year settlements (a good thing) and HMT will allow an overspend during that period. The idea is the savings will balance later on but as they’ve talked about slowing down the process until 2027/8 I’m sceptical, especially as primary legislation will be required to get rid of the current system and NHSE has around 500-+ statutory duties to fulfil so can’t just “stop” without someone else picking these duties up.

Might be wrong but I think the original announcements suggested at the time that the ICB mergers would be completed by end of this year which seemed a bit fanciful.

 

[Don Karleone]

I've changed my mind, there is no way that is true.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

If they’re trying to use Streeting to topple Starmer, you’d think they’d tell Streeting of the plan.

Not seen the full detail but looks like a non-story. Some media type ‘asks’ a question and some nothing answer leads to a media frenzy.

Will suit the likes of GB and Sky News, obviously nothing else going on in the world and they’ve got to fill the void inbetween their BBC stories.

Get the bond markets jittery before the budget to cause more damage to the country’s finances. You think some of these media outlets would have the United Kingdom’s interests at the top of their priorities, instead it’s to cause chaos to enhance their paymaster’s agenda.

 

[mosssideblue]

No probs, it’s all about opinions. You can call it ridiculous or unworkable or whatever, but it’s certainly not childish. What is child-like is being meek and tolerating unacceptable behaviours

Of course it's childish to expect a fresh GE every time a manifesto pledge is broken irrespective of underlying circumstances

 

[Blackley_Blue]

I don't know the ins and outs, but the way Blackley put it forward was suggesting the money was just conjured up out of thin air which appears not to be the case.

Yeah, guilty of the headline grabbing post, but my opinion on this is the opposite. I think it's a good thing. The NHS needs reform from the top down. There were a lot of people left in limbo (some who I know both personally and professionally) and this is good news and should put an end to this.

No complaints from me on this particular subject.

 

[Pedestrian]

Is this for the loss of NHS England, to cut what has been called ‘unnecessary bureaucracy’, by culling managerial and admin jobs?

Looks like the payments will come from current budget as the savings will be realised within the following years.

This is local trusts offering redundancy to clinical staff while ED has 5+ hour waiting times and the waiting lists continue.

 

[metalblue]

Treasury approves a one off £1billion to pay for NHS Redundancies.

Never thought I’d see nurses getting laid off under a Labour government

 

[metalblue]

Is this for the loss of NHS England, to cut what has been called ‘unnecessary bureaucracy’, by culling managerial and admin jobs?

Looks like the payments will come from current budget as the savings will be realised within the following years.

Nurses are getting laid off at trusts. Both our local ones are doing it as they need to balance the budgets and you can work with a few less nurses you can’t work without a HR department.

 

[metalblue]

I've changed my mind, there is no way that is true.

Someone is having fun https://www.wesforleader.com/

This was registered last night apparently.

 

[hampshireblue]

This is local trusts offering redundancy to clinical staff while ED has 5+ hour waiting times and the waiting lists continue.

Not according to the news reports. It's about cutting bureaucracy and putting the savings into front line care. Maybe it's being reported differently where you are?

 

[stonerblue]

Never thought I’d see nurses getting laid off under a Labour government

They're not are they? I've just read it's admin and management getting laid off.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Wesley bought domain names years ago for leadership campaigns.

He won't get it. Whoever challenges him will because he's as popular as a Scouser at a referees piss up.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Sky News backing Streeting. Blowing a lot of smoke up his arse.

 

[Lowtower]

Wes Streeting is everything a labour MP shouldn't be

 

[mosssideblue]

Wes Streeting is everything a labour MP shouldn't be

What do you mean?

 

[Vic]

BBC Breakfast interview started on NHS, and then went onto the party stuff.

The repeated questions about 'will you ever challenge Starmer' were crass ('ever' is there to set up a hostage for the future, and the whole question is there to get a quote to use). I thought Streeting dealt with it pretty well, and didn't say anything out of turn.

Standard response should be, "Would you ever want to replace your boss in the news department?"

 

[Lowtower]

What do you mean?

You not seen him mate?

Smarmy, rent a smile, self serving prick, he wrote a book about himself.

Theres a lot in the Labour party like that at the moment, been an issue since the 90s.

Call me old fashioned, but the Labour lot need to be interested in what is good for people first, not what is good for their own image

 

[metalblue]

They're not are they? I've just read it's admin and management getting laid off.

Nurses are getting laid off. Happening at both my local trusts. Friends of Mrs MB (as she’s worked at both trusts) including all of her old team on complex discharge - which means patients will stay in hospital longer and less throughput of patients as a consequence, but trust management is fully focused on balancing the books and not on patient experience or delays.


The £1bn is for NHS England.

 

[metalblue]

Wes Streeting is everything a labour MP shouldn't be

Probably why I quite like him ;)

 

[metalblue]

Wesley bought domain names years ago for leadership campaigns.

He won't get it. Whoever challenges him will because he's as popular as a Scouser at a referees piss up.

I’d be surprised if the rank and file would want to replace Starmer with someone who is even more of a Tory.