The Labour Government

[threespires]

Is she Kevin Reeves’ love child?

The maths definitely works. I had simply assumed it was mandatory for Reeves to follow Bond everywhere he went, but maybe he actually fled north to evade his responsibilities?

 

[stonerblue]

Thanks for the advice, but I was only asking. The thing is, i've worked my arse off all my life doing some really shitty jobs, highly stressed. Not being funny but most people I think would not have been able to put up with it and would have quit citing "stress". Now I have got myself to a position where I can just about afford a relatively comfortable retirement. Not excessive, just enough. If returns on investments take a tumble, it will be squeaky bum. If not, I shoudl just about be OK. I have no "spare" money.

So funnily enough I am rather paranoid about some **** in No. 11 deciding well done, you've amassed a few bob so we will take it off you to pay for the lazy twats who DID quit 'stress free" you

He gets attacked. He responds and you all get even more pissy.

What do you expect him to do? Just take it?

Block him if you have no time for his views but you and others can’t because it’s more fun ganging up on posters like him for daring to disagree.

Nobody's 'ganging up on anyone.

 

[stonerblue]

Correct.

It's a nothingburger.

Hahajahaha.

 

[domalino]

You’re confusing stupidity with dishonesty mate ;)

I don’t ever see her being PM, she would be the first leader to ever take over a party after they lose an election and win the next one. There is no evidence to suggest that she is going to change that trend.

Badenoch is there to be morally bankrupt and cause as many problems for the government as possible (ie her telling all conservative councils to attempt to close down Asylum hotels via the courts that her government put in, just to try and engineer a crisis for Labour).

18 months before the GE she will be replaced by a new Cameron figure who can then claim to be reclaiming the party for one nation Tories and small c conservatives.


She’ll never stand in a general election as Conservative leader.

 

[hcblue95]

Correct.

It's a nothingburger.

This is an embarrassing take.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Nobody's 'ganging up on anyone.

I didn't take it that way (much). Merely the usual insults that I get so responded to appropriately.

I do draw the line at being called a nonce, which has occurred on a couple of occassions. Pretty sad really just when someone disagrees with you that they have to resort to that.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Doesn’t look great though does it, your former leader being sent to prison for selling out the country?

Plus big Nige has his history of blaming anyone except Russia for the Ukraine war, and then the whole Aaron Banks Ural properties and meeting Russian agents before Brexit thing and GB News constantly getting linked to Russian money and putting out Kremlin friendly opinions.

Oh and wasn’t it just this morning it turned out one of their biggest donors was getting his money from a Kremlin backed cryptocurrency?

Cryptocurrency backed by Farage donor is used for Russian war effort, investigators say

Tether tokens found to facilitate scheme that enables sanctions evasion and launders money for the Kremlin

www.theguardian.com

Just keeps following Farage around doesn’t it.

But I’m sure you’re right, it’s nothing.

To say that Farage is "sub-optimal" would be an understatement. However, for anyone who thinks that you cannot tax your way to a more prosperous country, he is the only option. The Tories cannot win and another term of Labour would see us go the way of Greece, if they haven't managed it by the end of this one.

 

[domalino]

To say that Farage is "sub-optimal" would be an understatement. However, for anyone who thinks that you cannot tax your way to a more prosperous country, he is the only option. The Tories cannot win and another term of Labour would see us go the way of Greece, if they haven't managed it by the end of this one.

The only reason Reform will never raise taxes is because they'll never get in power to do so.

You don't even pay attention to the party you slobber over all day on here, Farage just completely dropped his commitment to cut taxes.

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www.tax.org.uk

 

[Brewster's millions]

The only reason Reform will never raise taxes is because they'll never get in power to do so.

You don't even pay attention to the party you slobber over all day on here, Farage just completely dropped his commitment to cut taxes.

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www.tax.org.uk

You’re assuming that a Reform government would push the tax burden ever higher, simply because they’ve abandoned a pledge to reduce taxes by £90bn?

What a ridiculous take.

 

[domalino]

You’re assuming that a Reform government would push the tax burden ever higher, simply because they’ve abandoned a pledge to reduce taxes by £90bn?

What a ridiculous take.

I'm assuming Reform would do exactly what anyone else in power is going to have to do based on the fact Farage has literally said they won't be able to afford to do what they want.

 

[Chippy_boy]

The only reason Reform will never raise taxes is because they'll never get in power to do so.

You don't even pay attention to the party you slobber over all day on here, Farage just completely dropped his commitment to cut taxes.

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www.tax.org.uk

Why the constant animosity? Not to mention being downright wrong all the time.

For a start, I have never “slobbered over” Farage. In fact my very last post said he’s sub optimal.

And I’m fully aware of his position on taxes. Why on earth you would think I am not, is beyond me. Presumably just another go at trying to mock and belittle. It’s SO tiresome.

But VERY unlike the bunch of clowns you support, Farage does at least does realise that raising them is actually bad for the economy and not just bad for votes. He has a hope of getting us out of the doom spiral of increasing taxes and falling tax receipts, which Labour will not.

And if you think he won’t be the next PM, you’re in for a hell of a big disappointment. In 2029 I mean. Admittedly some other Labour stooge will be in place well before the next GE.

 

[blueparrot]

To say that Farage is "sub-optimal" would be an understatement. However, for anyone who thinks that you cannot tax your way to a more prosperous country, he is the only option. The Tories cannot win and another term of Labour would see us go the way of Greece, if they haven't managed it by the end of this one.

I will never agree with your politics and that's okay and if you vote for the Tories again I'd disagree but fair enough. What I do find unnacceptable (to me) is anyone voting for a far right racist party like reform and finding excuses like I prefer their tax policy or I don't like the present government. They aren't prices worth paying for a party and leader as dispicable as Reform and Farage.
Luckily I very much doubt they will win enough seats to win power because enough of the 70% that are against reform are enough against them to tactical vote them out of enough seats that they will never win a majority.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You’re assuming that a Reform government would push the tax burden ever higher, simply because they’ve abandoned a pledge to reduce taxes by £90bn?

What a ridiculous take.

How would you feel about a Reform government?

 

[hampshireblue]

I know none of us want to pay any more tax, but for those that think we are out of line with other nations, I'll leave this for your consumption:

Personal average tax rates in Europe: Increases and cuts in 2024

The tax burden on workers, composed of income tax and social security contributions, varies widely across Europe. In 2024, this burden changed significantly in some countries, with notable rises and falls.

www.euronews.com

So arguing the rich can't afford just a tiny bit more is a nonsense.

 

[metalblue]

Badenoch is there to be morally bankrupt and cause as many problems for the government as possible (ie her telling all conservative councils to attempt to close down Asylum hotels via the courts that her government put in, just to try and engineer a crisis for Labour).

18 months before the GE she will be replaced by a new Cameron figure who can then claim to be reclaiming the party for one nation Tories and small c conservatives.


She’ll never stand in a general election as Conservative leader.

It wouldn’t shock me if all of that came to pass.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I will never agree with your politics and that's okay and if you vote for the Tories again I'd disagree but fair enough. What I do find unnacceptable (to me) is anyone voting for a far right racist party like reform and finding excuses like I prefer their tax policy or I don't like the present government. They aren't prices worth paying for a party and leader as dispicable as Reform and Farage.
Luckily I very much doubt they will win enough seats to win power because enough of the 70% that are against reform are enough against them to tactical vote them out of enough seats that they will never win a majority.

Ah, back to the old "anyone who has an issue with immigration is a racist" argument. Well, that's been well and truly rumbled mate. It doesn't wash anymore.

So sorry, but yes Farage will be the next PM (after the GE). Whether that's with a Tory coalition or on his own, remains to be seen.

 

[mosssideblue]

Ah, back to the old "anyone who has an issue with immigration is a racist" argument. Well, that's been well and truly rumbled mate. It doesn't wash anymore.

So sorry, but yes Farage will be the next PM (after the GE). Whether that's with a Tory coalition or on his own, remains to be seen.

Once we get near a GE and prospective parties have to table a manifesto and substantiate it, Reform will be fully exposed as a non starter

 

[Chippy_boy]

How would you feel about a Reform government?

Relieved.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Once we get near a GE and prospective parties have to table a manifesto and substantiate it, Reform will be fully exposed as a non starter

Of course you are free to hope so. I suspect to a very great extent that depends upon how "electable" people think Labour is. Right now, the polling says "Not even slightly", and I see that deteriorating and certainly not improving. No because of gut reaction, but because they have policies fundamentally damaging to our economy, so things will be worse in 2029 than they are now. Inflation is still high, as a direct result of wrong policies. Energy prices are through the roof because Milliband is a lying **** and knows full well that renewables come at a huge cost, both to bill payers and also to industry and employment. The ****.

So if Labour are unelectable, Reform win by default.

 

[domalino]

Why the constant animosity? Not to mention being downright wrong all the time.

For a start, I have never “slobbered over” Farage. In fact my very last post said he’s sub optimal.

And I’m fully aware of his position on taxes. Why on earth you would think I am not, is beyond me. Presumably just another go at trying to mock and belittle. It’s SO tiresome.

But VERY unlike the bunch of clowns you support, Farage does at least does realise that raising them is actually bad for the economy and not just bad for votes. He has a hope of getting us out of the doom spiral of increasing taxes and falling tax receipts, which Labour will not.

And if you think he won’t be the next PM, you’re in for a hell of a big disappointment. In 2029 I mean. Admittedly some other Labour stooge will be in place well before the next GE.

Honestly I think you represent the absolute worst of British politics right now. More interested on complaining and bringing everything down than supporting any solutions that might help the country and desperate for everyone to be as pessimistic and miserable as you are. You seem to revel in the idea of Reform getting in despite knowing they'd be bad for the country just because it would fuck shit up.

Completely unwilling to accept that large systemic problems like the economy and asylum don't have overnight fixes and demanding the government fix them yesterday, despite being attentive enough to politics that you know it's not possible.

Not to mention the constant regurgitation of far-right and right wing talking points. Thinking "wokeness" is the enemy and not the massive concentration of wealth that's taken place over the last 10 years. Swallowing culture war bullshit, supporting and defending racist scumbag Tommy Robinson, trying to import US RW talking points like DEI and posting every non-white person convicted of CSA while ignoring white British men being convicted of the same.

You think something entirely plausible and obviously in the best interests of the people in this country like nationalising bankrupt water companies is fanciful and belongs in an "alternate reality" we don't live in, and yet believe every pie in the sky promise Farage and reform come out with.

You go on non-stop about the asylum crisis, and yet when Labour brings in the most significant reforms in 50 years to reduce the amount of asylum seekers, reduce the amount of financial support they get and quadruple the amount of time they have to stay in the country to get IDL, you don't have a single positive word to say about it, despite it being orders of magnitude stronger than anything the previous government introduced.

Lastly, you're a Tory voter who takes zero accountability or responsibility for the actions of the successive governments you supported that got the country in this situation that you complain about so much in the first place.

Other than that I've got no problem with you.