She genuinely believes her majority went up because of standing up to Corbyn.Her gob on a stick act will go ballistic, but if her CLP think she is doing a bad job and get rid of her then tough shit, its their prerogative.
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Corbyn shouldn’t be allowing his ardent followers to attack MP’s, whilst saying nothing. He should defend his MP’s, defend their right to criticise him and play the long game, by getting them onside by talking to them and offering bridges.
And if those MPs threaten to knife him in the front, he should them cake should he.
The sooner the CLPs get rid of the Blairites the better.
You know full well, whilst she should have ignored the interviewers “knife” aspect of the question, as it was worded badly, that she meant if she had a problem she wouldn’t scheme behind his back, she’d do/say what she was going to directly to him.
It was a poorly phrased comment but she meant she’d be honest.
I do add Phillips and others into my argument that they need to be better and not create divisions themselves. It is up to Corbyn to lead the party and create the overall environment in which the divisions are healed though.
Driving out Blairites won’t help the party. Labour needs to appeal to everything from Tony Blair to Tony Benn to win a majority and transform the country into a fairer society.
I know your political position and admire your firmness in to sticking with it but unfortunately the country doesn’t agree with it, especially England.
Every time someone says something negative about the other side, it helps the government.
Driving out the Blairites is exactly what the party needs. Labour is a Socialist party not a neo-liberal fan club.
Really good post - that is you 4 and quite a few others on here - if this forum is typical of the UK populace it just proves that The LP need to get us back into the camp otherwise the support of all the 'purists' will not be comfort when they are analysing the reasons for a really more election outcome in 2020Was watching the match last night with three blue mates, age range 55-70, all four of us are lost Labour voters, we had a small chat and the one common subject was the lack of trust in Corbyn and his Shadow Cabinet. Labour will probably only win when they get rid of Jezzer and co, they are almost unelectable but by promising a lot (like University fees being scrapped) to the young and impressionable they may get very close. It’s years of heartache, JC is the firewall the Conservatives need to keep them in Office.
Blair won three elections without the donkey jackets and the miners, so can Labour again.Well if you want Labour to be like the Liberals then, a once major force in UK politics, now very much on the sidelines then please carry on.
The country has moved on from the donkey jackets, miners and mass strikes. Labour is faced with a stark choice: Also move on, or wither and die. Blair got this, and won 3 GE's. Other's haven't got it, and where has that left them?
It must be painful coming to terms with the fact that there's 65m people in this country and the vast majority of them don't want want a Corbyn-led Labour government is selling. And for many years now, the hard left have been in denial over it. Will they EVER come to terms with it, or forever be a weak and feeble opposition in decline? You decide.
Which Labour party ideals are wrong?Really good post - that is you 4 and quite a few others on here - if this forum is typical of the UK populace it just proves that The LP need to get us back into the camp otherwise the support of all the 'purists' will not be comfort when they are analysing the reasons for a really more election outcome in 2020
Well then it’ll die.
It is the largest political party in terms of membership in Europe.
Under Corbyn it has tripled the membership, how is that dying out?
Labour supporters often talk about the LibDems having the audacity to campaign to try and gain seats, those cheeky bastards, they accuse them of helping put the Tories in power at the next GE, but the biggest detriment to Labour is the infighting and the metaphorical lynching of MP’s that dare challenge the leadership.
For someone like me who wants to vote Labour, who likes a lot of the policies, it’s incredibly off putting to see Phillips get chased out, as the likes of Berger have.
Labour should be a broad church of ideas and not just a home for socialists. It’ll never win if it is.
Corbyn shouldn’t be allowing his ardent followers to attack MP’s, whilst saying nothing. He should defend his MP’s, defend their right to criticise him and play the long game, by getting them onside by talking to them and offering bridges.
Means nothing how many members you have. How many votes you get that counts.
I don't care if MPs on any side want to disagree with their respective leaders, that is democracy, however do your duty at a constituency and there are some that never even visit.
My MP Azfal Khan is in the constituency weekly.or fortnightly and attends many events aranged, I must admit I see Graham Stringer at Harpurhaley many a time in the month at north city library doung surgeries.
Yet you have people.like Phillips who sends her PPS to surgery anf Jo Swinson who apparently has visited her constituency 3 times in the last year.
Really good post - that is you 4 and quite a few others on here - if this forum is typical of the UK populace it just proves that The LP need to get us back into the camp otherwise the support of all the 'purists' will not be comfort when they are analysing the reasons for a really more election outcome in 2020
Driving out the Blairites is exactly what the party needs. Labour is a Socialist party not a neo-liberal fan club.
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