Of course we know what labour are going to do - it's all on record in starmers 10 pledges he used to seize power in the party.As a person who actually listens, and sees where Labour are at, I don’t see them as a shower, I see them as a group that can turn the tide, or at least put up a barrier to stem the flow.
Take the NHS for example, I keep seeing on here that Labour somehow want to privatise them, linking Streeting to privatised companies. It’s worse than reading the Mail and the complete opposite of what Labour’s plans are.
Then there’s education, where Labour want to change the ethos and bring better education for our children, or children’s children in my case. That then gets reported completely differently and the detail is completely lost.
Small boats?
Think about it, how many Labour ideas/policies have the Tories stolen to give them some popularity when they’ve been on their arse.
I‘m not interested in spin, I’ll judge on what they actually say do.
Do you know what they are saying and going to do?
Seize power? I don’t think he needed to do that following that defeat. More of ‘Pass the keys and don’t let the door hit you on the way out’.Of course we know what labour are going to do - it's all on record in starmers 10 pledges he used to seize power in the party.
I think you probably need to look at the roots of the labour party and labour movement - you'll be alarmed to see the whole thing was a sinister trade union plot (lol).Seize power? I don’t think he needed to do that following that defeat. More of ‘Pass the keys and don’t let the door hit you on the way out’.
I’d say it was the Unions who seized power to get Corbyn into the seat and if you are working by that principle, no wonder it comes back to bite you on the arse.
As for pledges, I don’t listen. Life changes, promising something starts when you have the the ability to act on it. These might just have a chance.
You forget, the left weren't happy about Tony Blair MP (anagram of I'm Tory Plan B).Labour are Tories and the Tories are Tories and this woman is a Labour MP, you see where I am going with this?
Even left wingers on here are disappointed with politicians even more so Labour politicians.
I didn't vote Tory in the last election I voted Labour and it was for nothing, I stated "They are all the same" and they are, this has fuck all to do with being a Tory because I am not it's has everything to do with being a realist.
You go ahead and vote the Tory party in that wears a red badge and see where that gets you next time around.
So the big question is, who do you vote for this time round if not labour? That’s not a dig, it's a genuine question. You can’t slag a party off for being a shit government before they’ve had a chance surely? What’s the alternative? Keep this load of criminals in? Not a chance! I don’t think a Labour government will be a bed of roses at all. But the thought of keeping this lot in is totally unthinkable.Labour are Tories and the Tories are Tories and this woman is a Labour MP, you see where I am going with this?
Even left wingers on here are disappointed with politicians even more so Labour politicians.
I didn't vote Tory in the last election I voted Labour and it was for nothing, I stated "They are all the same" and they are, this has fuck all to do with being a Tory because I am not it's has everything to do with being a realist.
You go ahead and vote the Tory party in that wears a red badge and see where that gets you next time around.
So the big question is, who do you vote for this time round
Voting for anyone else, no matter how good or great for the country/planet etc they are, keeps that lot in. It’s a shit show of a situation but I just don’t think I could stay in this excuse of a country if that happenedNone of the above?
As a person who actually listens, and sees where Labour are at, I don’t see them as a shower, I see them as a group that can turn the tide, or at least put up a barrier to stem the flow.