The Labour Party

BrianW said:
All political parties are coalitions, and that is why they have nappers in them. You only have to look at Christopher Chope for the Tories. In our (very) diverse society, it's almost inevitable. You exercise party discipline, but there is always someone who says stuff you don't want them to say.

Conspiracy theories? They abound in our world and people from all parts of the political spectrum believe in them. It's just that some seem to be 'acceptable.' People get taken in with them all the time. They are 99% complete bollocks, and this particular one is 100%.

The Labour Party has not covered itself in glory here. No one is saying they have. But don't kid yourself that a lot of people, not just Muslims, are, at a minimum, 'concerned' about what is going on in Gaza. Some are fucking angry. Some hate Jews. Most don't. Lumping everyone who has concerns about Gaza together as some sort of antisemitic Nazi is a very dangerous tactic. Not least because some of those with concerns are Jews themselves. This outburst, ridiculous and offensive as it may be, is but a symptom of that underlying concern. Which, I have to say, the top politicians are not addressing at all.
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Well, yes. A little bit of Labour difficulty is top story on BBC while a little bit of genocide is relegated to item 4.
 
Postman Pep said:
Incredible. Shame actual ethnic cleansing of one set of the people who reside between the river and the sea doesn't trigger you as much. What is with liberals and 'tone'.
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The River to the Sea upsets some folk yet the Right wing zionist publicly state they will kill the indigenous Palestinians off their land and then do the genocide and some folk think why did someone use a certain word. The genocidal deluded supporters are shocking.

How that terrorist state exits in its current form is incredible and to think it is funded by us.
 
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TinFoilHat said:
The irony of the same tactic the blarites used to get rid of Corbyn could fuck up Starmer.
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Weaponising legitimate concerns over an illegal occupation for factional purposes appears to be colliding with the reality of events on the ground. They would have got away with it if wasn't for them pesky Israelis live streaming ethnic cleansing.
 
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Postman Pep said:
Weaponising legitimate concerns over an illegal occupation for factional purposes appears to be colliding with the reality of events on the ground. They would have got away with it if wasn't for them pesky genocidal cunts.
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We have cunts of all sorts living amongst us. there are anti-Semites and Islamophobic arseholes, if Starmer would have sided with anyone he would have been fucked.

What makes it worse is that by not openly supporting either the bell end ideologues he is trying to appease are screaming for blood.

His own party are giving him a good old fashioned fucking.
 

Vic said:
Well, yes. A little bit of Labour difficulty is top story on BBC while a little bit of genocide is relegated to item 4.
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Come on Vic surely you can join dots here .... just don't say it out loud in in a meeting.
 
Postman Pep said:
Incredible. Shame actual ethnic cleansing of one set of the people who reside between the river and the sea doesn't trigger you as much. What is with liberals and 'tone'.
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A remarkable amount of assumption in one post.

A politician knows the value of words. Using a contentious phrase in a call for peace is disingenuous and is the reason he was suspended. To pretend otherwise is equally disingenuous.

If McDonald wants to genuinely reach out to both sides and work for peace, I wish him well. Probably best he avoids marginalising himself from the get go, though.
 
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