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Chippy_boy said:
This is perhaps the first time in history that anyone has used an endorsement from Ian Paisley as being in any way positive or something they'd like to be associated with.

It's like saying Gary Glitter thought I was a good bloke.
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Suppose just used it to counter the accusations of bias.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Mo Mowlam.
I'd forgotten her part to be fair. But I think her stint as Northern Ireland Secretary was as important to the eventual GFA as anyone else's contribution.
She definitely brought a humanity to the role, that perhaps the nationalist side were not accustomed to seeing from the UK Government.
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Most of the Secretaries chosen by Labour were decent. The Tories usually give the role to a clueless bigot that can't keep their mouth shut.
 
Mike D said:
Just because he wasn't some mouthpiece doesn't mean he didn't play an important role?

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discu...was-key-to-securing-the-good-friday-agreement
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Quotes from a Forum?!
As such vehicles are not exactly the source of factual information, as reading some of the stuff on here can
confirm, quoting the opinions of random chatters is hardly devastatingly insightful, the posters include Dr. Wibble,
Uncle Lou, and the best of the lot, Bobby no mates. Although a goodly proportion of this unlovely crew appear to hail from
Northern Ireland, and they are straightforward in their view that Corbyn had about as much influence as Les Dawson, so
some of them are not completely loony tunes.
It's comical seeing Jezza lovers desperately trying to paint him as Henry Kissinger or Kofi Annan, it really is.
 
blueinsa said:
Other than chief mourner at IRA funerals what key role did he play?
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You mean like Bobby Sands funeral the one which was proven not to be him but Owen Carrol (funny how a bloke with dark hair and a beard suddenly becomes Corbyn)Or just enlighten us with your wisdom and more importantly your proof?
 
Mike D said:
I lost you when you start spouting crap about IRA sympathiser.
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Was he not an IRA sympathiser? Did he or did he not attend fund raiser events in the States? Did he not mix with McGuinness and Adams? This does appear to be a smoking gun really, more so I would say than the things many Labour voters are using to brand Farage a racist or right wing extremist.
 
purplenose said:
Was he not an IRA sympathiser? Did he or did he not attend fund raiser events in the States? Did he not mix with McGuinness and Adams? This does appear to be a smoking gun really, more so I would say than the things many Labour voters are using to brand Farage a racist or right wing extremist.
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He knows what Corbyn is but his political views means he feels he has to deny it. That or he holds the same views on the IRA.

A sympathiser to a sympathiser you might say.
 
purplenose said:
Was he not an IRA sympathiser? Did he or did he not attend fund raiser events in the States? Did he not mix with McGuinness and Adams? This does appear to be a smoking gun really, more so I would say than the things many Labour voters are using to brand Farage a racist or right wing extremist.
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I would say you are right but think it applies to Farage and Corbyn equally.
 
blueparrot said:
I would say you are right but think it applies to Farage and Corbyn equally.
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Yes it could well do, equally it could be just politicians talking to people in order to find common ground? After all Trump met Kim. Cameron has met Putin, Both Tory and Labour governments have a long record of cosying up to murderous, racist, criminal regimes when it suits. Blair a great friend of Kigame, used his exec jet to fly around in no less, Thatcher with Pinochet, a man with the same kind of human rights record as Galitieri but he hated Galitieri and Argentina therefore he was a "great friend of Britain". Thatcher was very pally with Saddam and sold him most of his chemicals that he was to use on the Iranians and Kurds.

The list is endless, I doubt there is a politician world wide whom someone cannot come up with evidence of meeting with undesirable people.
 
purplenose said:
Yes it could well do, equally it could be just politicians talking to people in order to find common ground? After all Trump met Kim. Cameron has met Putin, Both Tory and Labour governments have a long record of cosying up to murderous, racist, criminal regimes when it suits. Blair a great friend of Kigame, used his exec jet to fly around in no less, Thatcher with Pinochet, a man with the same kind of human rights record as Galitieri but he hated Galitieri and Argentina therefore he was a "great friend of Britain". Thatcher was very pally with Saddam and sold him most of his chemicals that he was to use on the Iranians and Kurds.

The list is endless, I doubt there is a politician world wide whom someone cannot come up with evidence of meeting with undesirable people.
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It goes with the territory but Chuka Umunna is obviously a step too far.
 
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