Psychodelic said:Maybe if the club stopped playing music at full volume through the pa until the point the ref blows for kick off you may get fans chanting and singing more. It completely drowns out the crowd which is most likely why people remain quiet nowadays. Why bother if you can't even hear yourself . Its absurd at the moment and is deafening. I can remember years ago, watching the Kippax fill up as a youngster. You used to get in that stand a good half hour before kick off. Even in the Platt Lane benches. By the time the team ran out the ground would be buzzing. All without a constant fucking din of deafening music or constant pa announcements. Drives me up the wall. And to be honest, I've always found Blue Moon to be such a bloody dirge anyway. Much preferred that Doves City jingle they used to play a few years back before the teams came out but I wish they'd calm it down with the music and let the atmosphere develop naturally. Let's face it we have big games on a regular basis now and last night could've been like a derby atmosphere or even like Hamburg UEFA cup match if that infernal pa was turned off other than announcing the teams. I appreciate you're gonna play music or show a few recent goals or interviews on the scoreboard screens but not up to the point of kick off, it just completely nullifies any thought of joining in a chant or sing song if you just can't hear yourselves. That's my take on the atmosphere thing anyway. Mind you, its most likely the same at quite a lot of big grounds these days.
Do they? I've had a season ticket for 11 years in three different areas and I've never heard anyone be told to sit down at an exciting moment of the game.ManCitizens. said:Psychodelic said:Maybe if the club stopped playing music at full volume through the pa until the point the ref blows for kick off you may get fans chanting and singing more. It completely drowns out the crowd which is most likely why people remain quiet nowadays. Why bother if you can't even hear yourself . Its absurd at the moment and is deafening. I can remember years ago, watching the Kippax fill up as a youngster. You used to get in that stand a good half hour before kick off. Even in the Platt Lane benches. By the time the team ran out the ground would be buzzing. All without a constant fucking din of deafening music or constant pa announcements. Drives me up the wall. And to be honest, I've always found Blue Moon to be such a bloody dirge anyway. Much preferred that Doves City jingle they used to play a few years back before the teams came out but I wish they'd calm it down with the music and let the atmosphere develop naturally. Let's face it we have big games on a regular basis now and last night could've been like a derby atmosphere or even like Hamburg UEFA cup match if that infernal pa was turned off other than announcing the teams. I appreciate you're gonna play music or show a few recent goals or interviews on the scoreboard screens but not up to the point of kick off, it just completely nullifies any thought of joining in a chant or sing song if you just can't hear yourselves. That's my take on the atmosphere thing anyway. Mind you, its most likely the same at quite a lot of big grounds these days.
I'm sure we had the same music as the X factor for the build up on the two screens the other night, shocking.
On another note, at half time if you look around the ground you'll see everybody standing up in all the stands. As soon as the game starts everybody sits back down screaming "sit down" at anybody with the audacity to stand as we're about to take a shot on goal.
Kippaxstreetheadache said:A lot of gloryhunters were there on Monday, and that doesn't help. People who are clearly new to City, and new to us because we're now a big draw.That certainly doesn't help the atmosphere. The steep cost of tickets on Monday wouldn't help either, that also lends itself more to a tourist type of fan.
The proper blues on a low budget, who can't attend regularly due to cost and/or family or work commitments have to pick and choose fixtures, cost is a big factor in considering which games to attend - especially if taking a kid or two.
That isn't a consideration to the tourist type, they just turn up now and then for the glamour games. Cost is rarely an issue because they don't attend regularly anyway.
This topic has been done to death, but I'd rather we didn't see anymore increases in pricing, especially individual tickets. I don't want to see our match day crowd going the way of Chelsea's or United's, I doubt I'm alone in that sentiment.
A reduction in prices would help the atmosphere, but that's never going to happen while we're still selling out.
I have a mate in EL3, and he tells me he's surrounded by day trippers and plastics more often than not. I'm largely sheltered from it in EL1, as almost everyone around us is a regular, but I've been noticing the difference of late - particularly in big games.
This is a pricing issue. The atmosphere and the pricing go hand in hand.
Football is the only 'inclusive' public platform where gentrification is encouraged, quite contradictory. There shouldn't be any raised eyebrows when the atmospheres suffer.