The Manager

Burtonblue said:
danburge82 said:
Burtonblue said:
Sorry but have to disagree
Gave Madrid the game of their life in their own backyard
In case you didn't notice, Real were on it big time tonight. I'll bet very few teams will go 2-1 up at the Bernabeu with 5 to go. If we'd hung on you would have proclaimed RM as a genius.
It was a game of narrow margins and on another day we would have won it.
Have to credit Madrid. They were awesome tonight and our boys did amazingly well to get anywhere near them tonight.
To be honest if we'd hung on we'd all be saying we got away with it big time. There were many positives from tonight but also many negatives.
I'm sorry but when you play away against the big boys there is bound to be some hanging on at stages in the game. The onus will always be on the home side to attack and on the away side to get something from the game. It's how Chelsea won the trophy last year.
I don't think it's fair to blame the gaffer for the players on the pitch blowing a two goal lead with 5 to go. Madrid got lucky in the end.
I agree with you.

And I'm not blaming the manager, I'm not blaming anyone. We win as a club (managemant team, playing team and fans) and lose as a club. Just saying where he might have done things differently. Have said about where players went wrong, also stating where Roberto might have done things another way.
 
I don't give a fuck that we played Chesterfield, Macclesfield, Stockport et al 10 years ago, the club is now a completely different animal and I don't think for one minute Mansour, Khaldoon and Mancini whenever they are sat around the boardroom table will be patting each other on the back about a good job done and how far we've come so let's not worry about anything else and discussing who was at York and who wasn't.

All that said i'm delighted with tonights game, the Bernabeu, Real Madrid, Champions League, a great game for the nation to watch and ultimately we're not going to win every game we play and hopefully we will learn from tonight. However that shouldn't mean we can't discuss Mancini and his tactics and decisions or the players and the clubs expectations as I keep seeing certain mistakes over and over.

Lescott must wonder what he's done wrong, first Bayern last year and now Madrid this, dropped both games for a kid in games that just don't come around that often for a proffessional footballer. Now Nastasic did well and did nothing wrong but does bringing an unknown 19 year old in for his debut in such a big game go some way to disrupting Vincent's game. He's got a kid on one side and a new ageing right back on the other? Mancini has form for dropping one of his centre backs and when I look back at the Arsenal side from recent successful years could you ever imagin Adams or Bould being dropped for a major game, Vidic or Ferdinand at the Rags or Terry and Carvalho?

Milner should have started in front of Maicon to double up on Ronaldo and Milner's energy would have helped the side as a whole. I think Mancini got a few things wrong tonight but that's more an observation and not a critiscism. We're in with the big boys now and as much as us the fans are just enjoying the ride those players themselvers are in it to win - Joe Hart's post match interview was testament to that.
 
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Fuck me, 5 mins away from beating the team that easily beat Barca to the title last year and some people are blaming the manager. I tell you what....let's have another manager merry go round again eh?

It's the implications of losing the first game in such a difficlult group ..... Mourinhos actions after Ronaldos winner told its own story.

It's gonna be very hard for us now , with the quality in this group , and with Dortmund winning too .... all we've achieved tonite is to heap pressure on ourselves , no wonder Joe Hart was livid !
 
Blue2112 said:
I don't give a fuck that we played Chesterfield, Macclesfield, Stockport et al 10 years ago, the club is now a completely different animal and I don't think for one minute Mansour, Khaldoon and Mancini whenever they are sat around the boardroom table will be patting each other on the back about a good job done and how far we've come so let's not worry about anything else and discussing who was at York and who wasn't.

All that said i'm delighted with tonights game, the Bernabeu, Real Madrid, Champions League, a great game for the nation to watch and ultimately we're not going to win every game we play and hopefully we will learn from tonight. However that shouldn't mean we can't discuss Mancini and his tactics and decisions or the players and the clubs expectations as I keep seeing certain mistakes over and over.

Lescott must wonder what he's done wrong, first Bayern last year and now Madrid this, dropped both games for a kid in games that just don't come around that often for a proffessional footballer. Now Nastasic did well and did nothing wrong but does bringing an unknown 19 year old in for his debut in such a big game go some way to disrupting Vincent's game. He's got a kid on one side and a new ageing right back on the other? Mancini has form for dropping one of his centre backs and when I look back at the Arsenal side from recent successful years could you ever imagin Adams or Bould being dropped for a major game, Vidic or Ferdinand at the Rags or Terry and Carvalho?

Milner should have started in front of Maicon to double up on Ronaldo and Milner's energy would have helped the side as a whole. I think Mancini got a few things wrong tonight but that's more an observation and not a critiscism. We're in with the big boys now and as much as us the fans are just enjoying the ride those players themselvers are in it to win - Joe Hart's post match interview was testament to that.


good post
 
Poor individual defending let us down, not Mancini. These will be eradicated as the season goes on.
 
Blue2112 said:
I don't give a fuck that we played Chesterfield, Macclesfield, Stockport et al 10 years ago, the club is now a completely different animal and I don't think for one minute Mansour, Khaldoon and Mancini whenever they are sat around the boardroom table will be patting each other on the back about a good job done and how far we've come so let's not worry about anything else and discussing who was at York and who wasn't.

All that said i'm delighted with tonights game, the Bernabeu, Real Madrid, Champions League, a great game for the nation to watch and ultimately we're not going to win every game we play and hopefully we will learn from tonight. However that shouldn't mean we can't discuss Mancini and his tactics and decisions or the players and the clubs expectations as I keep seeing certain mistakes over and over.

Lescott must wonder what he's done wrong, first Bayern last year and now Madrid this, dropped both games for a kid in games that just don't come around that often for a proffessional footballer. Now Nastasic did well and did nothing wrong but does bringing an unknown 19 year old in for his debut in such a big game go some way to disrupting Vincent's game. He's got a kid on one side and a new ageing right back on the other? Mancini has form for dropping one of his centre backs and when I look back at the Arsenal side from recent successful years could you ever imagin Adams or Bould being dropped for a major game, Vidic or Ferdinand at the Rags or Terry and Carvalho?

Milner should have started in front of Maicon to double up on Ronaldo and Milner's energy would have helped the side as a whole. I think Mancini got a few things wrong tonight but that's more an observation and not a critiscism. We're in with the big boys now and as much as us the fans are just enjoying the ride those players themselvers are in it to win - Joe Hart's post match interview was testament to that.

Take a bow Josh. Top post.

Worth pointing out that Mancini got his tactics spot on tonight in my eyes. We frustrated the fuck out of Madrid. I keep hearing how they battered us and deserved to win, but to my eyes, on another day we score from at least one of Yaya's breaks in the first half, and his chance when we were one nil up gets buried too. You need your best players to collectively have 8/10 performances to go to Madrid and come back with 3 points. We weren't far away without getting those performances. It bodes well.
 

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