The NHS

purplenose said:
The Tories promises are worth nothing. Do you believe their promises...really? They do not give a fuck about the NHS or infact about anything or anybody other than themselves and their like.

I can only assume that you are in reasonable health. If you had any illness or condition that required medical care you would never in a million years vote Tory. Karen and others including myself have bitter experience of the state of the NHS and know who is responsible for it.

Sorry if I offend anyone but in this instance I make no apologies at all for saying this. Anyone voting Tory should be utterly ashamed of themselves. Likewise anyone voting Labour though if nothing else there would be some improvement of the NHS with a Labour government, even the shower of shit that are the current Labour party.
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My wife has been dealing with the consequences of a Lymphoma diagnosis for the last four years, she is from a family of traditionally Labour supporters.. she and 90% (possibly higher as I can't speak for them all) of the family will never vote for Labour until Corbyn and Co. are gone...

Why is that do you think?

If you are right she surely wouldn't be foolish enough to vote for anybody else than Labour.. The thing is, she isn't stupid enough to believe their BS either
 
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Bluemanc100 said:
My wife has been dealing with the consequences of a Lymphoma diagnosis for the last four years, she is from a family of traditionally Labour supporters.. she and 90% (possibly higher as I can't speak for them all) of the family will never vote for Labour until Corbyn and Co. are gone...

Why is that do you think?

If you are right she surely wouldn't be foolish enough to vote for anybody else than Labour.. The thing is, she isn't stupid enough to believe their BS either
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Nor am I stupid enough to believe them either...as I said anyone voting for them should be just as ashamed of themselves as those who vote Tory, however when it comes to the NHS they will be less bad than the Tories, but hardly the answer to the nations problems either.

I myself would be a Labour voter but like your wife and her family will never vote for them whilst Corbyn and Abbott are stinking them out, and indeed the extreme left that plague the party currently are anywhere near having an influence on the Labour party.
 
purplenose said:
The Tories promises are worth nothing. Do you believe their promises...really?

They do not give a fuck about the NHS or infact about anything or anybody other than themselves and their like.

I can only assume that you are in reasonable health. If you had any illness or condition that required medical care you would never in a million years vote Tory. Karen and others including myself have bitter experience of the state of the NHS and know who is responsible for it.

Sorry if I offend anyone but in this instance I make no apologies at all for saying this. Anyone voting Tory should be utterly ashamed of themselves. Likewise anyone voting Labour though if nothing else there would be some improvement of the NHS with a Labour government, even the shower of shit that are the current Labour party.
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I make no apologies for saying you're talking absolute crap.

During the last 10 extremely difficult years with restrained public spending across the board, the NHS has received increases where other departments have received cuts. That the increases have not been as much as you would like, we get.

But those are not the the actions of a government which does not care about the NHS.

When people voted in 2010, 2015 and to an extent in 2017, for spending cuts, WTF did you expect??? Most people understand that money does not grow on trees and that sometimes you cannot just keep spending what you'd like. Why that concept is beyond you, I have no idea.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I make no apologies for saying you're talking absolute crap.

During the last 10 extremely difficult years with restrained public spending across the board, the NHS has received increases where other departments have received cuts. That the increases have not been as much as you would like, we get.

But those are not the the actions of a government which does not care about the NHS.

When people voted in 2010, 2015 and to an extent in 2017, for spending cuts, WTF did you expect??? Most people understand that money does not grow on trees and that sometimes you cannot just keep spending what you'd like. Why that concept is beyond you, I have no idea.
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The concept is not beyond me. There is enough money to make a difference.

The tories look after their own nobody else and i make no apologies for saying anyone voting for them is a ****.
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purplenose said:
The concept is not beyond me. There is enough money to make a difference.

The tories look after their own nobody else and i make no apologies for saying anyone voting for them is a ****.
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And there is your typical Corbynista. Anyone who doesn't agree with them is a ****.
 
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Politicians love to point out that they have increased the budget of a department as if that actually represents an investment in the service provided. But of course any business owner will tell you that it costs more every year to continue to provide exactly the same service. If the outgoings of my shop increase year-on-year, that doesn't mean I'm investing extra in the company, it just means my staff's wages have increased, utilities have gone up and the wholesaler is charging more. And the fact that the NHS has faced constant funding gaps and budget deficits under this Tory government suggests that it has not been increasing spending at a level that enables them to continue providing the same level of service.
 
purplenose said:
The concept is not beyond me. There is enough money to make a difference.

The tories look after their own nobody else and i make no apologies for saying anyone voting for them is a ****.
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And I make no apology for calling you a wanker for saying it.

Oh and by the way, you talk out of your arse.
 
Chippy_boy said:
And I make no apology for calling you a wanker for saying it.

Oh and by the way, you talk out of your arse.
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No apology required

Yes yes i do...but still speak with more sense out of my arse than you manage out of your gob.

Anyway we will sadly i suspect see soon who is right after a couple of years of boris. Will you have the bollocks to hold your hands up if you are wrong, i will.

Btw...had any experience of the nhs recently? I have....or perhaps you have private health care?
 
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