The NHS

[Rascal]

Nope, Boris just using the NHS as a front knowing the public will allow him to invest more taxpayer's money whilst the private companies just drain it off.

Probably more likely

 

[urban genie]

I am not suprised, most people at the time called camerons reforms.idiotic, and were going cause issues down the line.

The thing is the conservative party has no issue with governments having some state control, UK conservatism is quite different from many other nations verasions and is happy to run many parts of infrastructure if it is in their best interests.

The reqlisation tgat the Ministry of heqlth should be the ones to oversee tge NHS not private firms and middle managers is jus tthe tories reverting to a system that worked better than the idiotic nonsense they imposed themselves.

 

[dickie davies]

I've been sat in an A&E waiting room now for almost five hours and I'm giving up and going home

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I've been sat in an A&E waiting room now for almost five hours and I'm giving up and going home

Sad times, mate.

 

[Ducado]

The NHS had lists thousands of bed spaces under the tories unless they are replaced the service is going to continue to struggle

 

[paulchapo]

I've been sat in an A&E waiting room now for almost five hours and I'm giving up and going home

My dad has had to go to A+E twice in the last couple of weeks. He's 92 and was referred there to get his heart checked after an examination by his doctor found an irregular beat. The doctor tried for twenty minutes to phone the hospital and couldn't get through. He gave my dad a letter to give the reception on arrival saying he should be seen quicker. He got there at 1:15 pm and he was eventually seen at 9:15 pm. An eight hour wait in a casualty waiting room with heart problems at 92 years of age.
A week later he had a blood test and the person examining his blood and not knowing his condition phoned my sister up and told her his blood test indicated he was about to have a heart attack and to call 999 for an ambulance immediately. He got there at 6:30 pm and was finally seen by a doctor at 2:30 am. The doctor said if the person examining his blood had access to his medical records he wouldn't have sent him to hospital. Incredibly, in this technological age, a health professional doing tests on you and with all your details can't just access your medical records. It's staggering .
I know they do their best but it really is fucked at the moment.

 

[inbetween]

My dad has had to go to A+E twice in the last couple of weeks. He's 92 and was referred there to get his heart checked after an examination by his doctor found an irregular beat. The doctor tried for twenty minutes to phone the hospital and couldn't get through. He gave my dad a letter to give the reception on arrival saying he should be seen quicker. He got there at 1:15 pm and he was eventually seen at 9:15 pm. An eight hour wait in a casualty waiting room with heart problems at 92 years of age.
A week later he had a blood test and the person examining his blood and not knowing his condition phoned my sister up and told her his blood test indicated he was about to have a heart attack and to call 999 for an ambulance immediately. He got there at 6:30 pm and was finally seen by a doctor at 2:30 am. The doctor said if the person examining his blood had access to his medical records he wouldn't have sent him to hospital. Incredibly, in this technological age, a health professional doing tests on you and with all your details can't just access your medical records. It's staggering .
I know they do their best but it really is fucked at the moment.

My mum had to have pre-op tests before surgery last year and when she turned up they did an ECG, the ECG was abnormal and they thought she might be having a heart attack so she was urgently sent to A&E. They told her that they'd let A&E know she was coming and she'd be seen straight away.

She turned up at A&E and then had to wait over an hour to be seen. It took that long because they didn't know why she was there and she had to go through triage no differently to had she walked in off the street. Had she actually had a heart attack then she'd probably be screwed. Eventually they saw her and repeated the exact same tests that had already been done by the pre-op people and it turned out it was just something minor on the ECG.

When I goto the dentist I am seen and by the time I have walked to reception downstairs the receptionist has on the computer what the dentist has said, how much I owe and what I need doing. Why is the £170bn per year NHS not able to function in this way?

 

[BobKowalski]

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When I goto the dentist I am seen and by the time I have walked to reception downstairs the receptionist has on the computer what the dentist has said, how much I owe and what I need doing. Why is the £170bn per year NHS not able to function in this way?

Probably because the information was not processed in time or at all. The NHS is under-managed which leads to administrative failure.

 

[BrianW]

The NHS is incredibly efficient. Check out the proportion of GDP we spend on health compared to similar countries. You will find that they all spend more.

Of course it can be improved. But the problem with this country is that we hate investment. We are the equivalent of a guy who drives about in a 1959 Morris Minor and spends five grand a year getting it through the MOT.

 

[metalblue]

My dad has had to go to A+E twice in the last couple of weeks. He's 92 and was referred there to get his heart checked after an examination by his doctor found an irregular beat. The doctor tried for twenty minutes to phone the hospital and couldn't get through. He gave my dad a letter to give the reception on arrival saying he should be seen quicker. He got there at 1:15 pm and he was eventually seen at 9:15 pm. An eight hour wait in a casualty waiting room with heart problems at 92 years of age.
A week later he had a blood test and the person examining his blood and not knowing his condition phoned my sister up and told her his blood test indicated he was about to have a heart attack and to call 999 for an ambulance immediately. He got there at 6:30 pm and was finally seen by a doctor at 2:30 am. The doctor said if the person examining his blood had access to his medical records he wouldn't have sent him to hospital. Incredibly, in this technological age, a health professional doing tests on you and with all your details can't just access your medical records. It's staggering .
I know they do their best but it really is fucked at the moment.

We’d hope they do but the reality is they don’t do their best mate. At an individual staff level most do (not all) but institutionally it’s a joke. I know of examples between my two local hospitals where there is resistance to align paperwork let alone computer systems. Then you overlay the community services who use whatever system they decided on. An example I know of is one of the community services that serves the same patients as the acute trust use different systems but the community use the same system as they do in the trust next door. It’s bonkers but it gets worse, information is re-keyed manually between systems even within the same hospitals because IT is a joke - I know this because Mrs MB has to do it for her patients. This is the reality many staff face on a daily basis.

The NHS does amazing things but it’s also riddled with a culture of nepotism, dick waving, and bullying that stops real change. The NHS isn’t even poorly funded per-se with some parts of the system having money to burn (and boy do they burn it) and other parts being cash strapped. Or at the very least until it sorts out its funding disparities it’s hard to see how much more it needs.