The NHS

[journolud]

No @smudgedj English is my first language, that was a childish barb of yours. Apologies though if I have made incorrect assumptions about your stance on the NHS. Will you be gracing us with your views or just sniping from the sidelines? What do you think of the NHS, the people who run it and (important distinction) the people who try to deliver it day to day?

 

[SWP's back]

Hey @Chippy_boy @Mëtal Bikër @smudgedj this is one to confirm your prejudices

https://www.theguardian.com/society...elative-died-after-neglect-by-hospital-trusts

Bot not these

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...re-theresa-may-diabetes-america-a8422596.html

https://www.express.co.uk/life-styl...-nhs-healthcare-exclusive-story-Aneira-Thomas

How is that a grown up discussion when you add the pejorative?

 

[BobKowalski]

No @smudgedj English is my first language, that was a childish barb of yours. Apologies though if I have made incorrect assumptions about your stance on the NHS. Will you be gracing us with your views or just sniping from the sidelines? What do you think of the NHS, the people who run it and (important distinction) the people who try to deliver it day to day?

You called it right first time. No one is buying that post of his anymore than they are buying MB’s.

 

[journolud]

I gave an account of my experiences that has soured my view of the organisation, nothing more than that.

People can take it as read or dismiss it, that's fine. But i'm still not going to be silent about voicing criticisms.

Fair enough but the discussion needs to be balanced and objective wouldn't you say?

 

[journolud]

How is that a grown up discussion when you add the pejorative?

I withdraw the pejorative. The highlighted links are meant to acknowledge both sides of the debate

 

[SilverFox2]

Bad or good experiences can be down to different hospitals, trusts, departments or shifts.
The other variable I worry about is blood test trigger points (ie the upper and lower ok figures on the results). Do all trusts have exactly the same "normal" values or can they be influenced by say deliberate outside normal values being exaggerated to include dangerous levels?

 

[BobKowalski]

Ain't that the truth.

Just waiting for a "I wish you died" sort of comment.

Someone pass the sick bag.

And I seriously hope everyone is full of admiration with how I kept this on topic with the above comment.

 

[The Riot Club]

It's a damn sight better than not having it! And everyone I've encountered who works there has been friendly, helpful and professional. Like every profession I'm sure lots of people can find examples where someone's had a bad day so they've experienced something below the usual standards. But by and large it's a fine institution with hard working people having to work even harder because a succession of governments have been penny pinching, incompetent and short-sighted.

If we didn't ringfence so much money for foreign aid or pay off negligent bankers and CEOs maybe the NHS would receive the funding it needs and deserves. Getting the likes of Amazon to pay fair taxes would help too.

 

[Metal Biker]

Fair enough but the discussion needs to be balanced and objective wouldn't you say?

Absolutely, such as dismissing someone when they reveal their own personal experiences over a period of three months, relying on the 'care' of the NHS, for giving their personal feedback to others on the subject matter.

Naturally you haven't, but I've noticed whenever anyone does post an objectively negative comment about the NHS, which is clearly not considered the norm, it is hounded upon, ridiculed and dismissed, which I feel is in tone of the reasons this thread was started in the first place. It's becoming impossible to declare disatisfaction with the NHS these days, which is why the poor service is allowed to continue. Paramedics are about the only part of the NHS service I cannot fault.

The first step to solving a problem is realisng there is one. The NHS is not fit for purpose anymore under it's current system, and something needs to change given the attitudes and effort put in by the staff members I encountered at several different departments. I don't directly blame the "Gove'mint" for that, I blame those that I was directly placed in the care of, expecting treatment, receiving none, and having to go private as a result thanks to my family stepping in and helping fund my treatment.

 

[yerwot?]

Poor old umlaut, wont anyone take him seriously? As for chippy, plain old wummin' cut and paste dailyhate mail propaganda zzzzzzz, civil servants are all cunts, goldplated blah blah, lucky he had time to grace the forum what with his 168 hr wks, beginning to sound like dave whelan though. Or a yorkshireman....