The Political Correlation Between the US and UK...

I think i agree with some of Bigga's sentiments about the 2 party system in the USA, i think it's rather bad for democracy in the long run and it also narrows the political choice. Especially issue's like the level of gerrymandering and the fading boundaries between institutions like senate and Supreme court for what regards the devission of powers.

Personally i think that "Left" and "right" for a large part should unite against the growing power of the wealthy elite. In truth many of the poor people that vote for Trump for economic gain will likely prove misguided, but thats the poor on the right whereas among the left you won't find much issue with tackling the power of the wealthy elite.

Fact imho is we should all be earning much more for less hours worked simply because of the growing levels of automation within our economic system, as automation has that potential to give you more output for less manual labour. But at this moment the capitalist get all the benifits of automatisation trough holding the means of production and the impotence of states in the face of globalisatin, whereas it's still the product of society as a whole that we can have this level automation.

Our leaders are always on the lookout for scapegoats so to drive away the attention from the method in which they are constantly increasing their wealth and consequent power.

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This really should be the graph that defines politics in our time. This is a trend that has continued for decades now already. It doesn't help that country's like the USA are getting more lax on campaign funding laws while taxes are continuisly lowered for them too.
Much of modern politics is a tapestry of clever semantics designed to drive attention away from this, because there is simply no good or nessecary reason for the wealth gap to be increasing like that. And let me add that this isn't a socialist position per se, one can perfectly be right wing and pro capitalism and still speak against this growing wealth devide for the same reasons.

Excellent post
 
Scary post when you get down to it. Divide and Conquer is knocking solidarity out of the park and much of the western world has lost the will to fight.

It definitely makes you want to go out and vote left wing.

America needed Bernie and it’s a crying shame he would never have won. As you say, people have lost the fight.
 
It definitely makes you want to go out and vote left wing.

America needed Bernie and it’s a crying shame he would never have won. As you say, people have lost the fight.
Blame the Democratic party for that, they've got some great members but they're rotten from the top down and even with some great grassroots stuff recently that'll take a lot to change. They do what the corperates tell them to do and Saunders didn't fit in, right when they needed him.
 
Blame the Democratic party for that, they've got some great members but they're rotten from the top down and even with some great grassroots stuff recently that'll take a lot to change. They do what the corperates tell them to do and Saunders didn't fit in, right when they needed him.

Couldn’t agree more.

Clinton was and always will be an awful choice.
 
Couldn’t agree more.

Clinton was and always will be an awful choice.
They might have lost it with Saunders tbf, the electoral college doesn't lend itself to a Democrat president right now, but they wouldn't have lost it by putting the face of the rotten establishment up for election against a maverick and they'd be in a better place now.
 
America could use some grassroots movement among it's christian right centered around ideals of peacefullness and a compassionate society. It's questionable how the GoP dominates so much of the christian conservative ellectorate while supporting interventionist millitary and harsh socio-economic policy's.Christ was rather pro sharing, less about the greed, more a pacifist type too.

In Belgium atleast we had that with the party formed by the priest Adolph Daens. It played a rather crucial role in the social reforms we had by getting a lot of the christian conservatives to support it too. Best belgian movie ever made (Daens) is a flick about him, easy to recommend it.

Afcourse, it can neither be underestimated how much the social differences between Flemmish and Wallonian played a part back then, it's why Daens his christian conservative party nowadays is called "christian democrats and Flemish".

Perhaps more on topic is the notion how much the identity of the christians in the USA has historicly been infleunced by the Brittish. Especially support for the Zionistl project both in ideological an practical terms is rather conspicious. I believe certain Puritans historicly had some rather weird views about how certain political events should lead to a "good old apocalypse".
 
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Blame the Democratic party for that, they've got some great members but they're rotten from the top down and even with some great grassroots stuff recently that'll take a lot to change. They do what the corperates tell them to do and Saunders didn't fit in, right when they needed him.

The Dems are cunning tw@s!

You can see right through what they're going to do, but it's the stopping them from doing it that's issue. They're meeting with the Progressive resistance as they STILL have media power. They have to buck when Progressive ideas go straight to the people without the Corporate angle on it, then they join the fight in some way, making it look like they're at grassroots level! The Dems DO have some good ideas, but not enough to serve the people, only to placate them.

The Progressive agenda is to put people first and now the Dems are pricking up their ears to that noise as they know Progressives can't start their own 3rd Party right now, being so splintered.

The Dems are snivelling doppelgangers!!

I really really despise them more than I thought possible!
 
Both sides of the Pond are seeing and feeling this.
Not exactly successfully. There will not be a socialist government in the US in your lifetime and there’s not been one in two generations in the U.K.
 

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