The Post General Election Thread

The people have spoken and Fetlocks (wherever he is) owes me £50 for predicting the outcome correctly.
Another 5 years of economic recovery and best of all, labour has no balls, not that they ever did...!! As for red ed..! A pathetic figure who was pure Tory gold...! Night, night to all the LWNJ, suck it up and see you in 5 years for yet more humiliation...!
 
worsleyweb said:
Ducado said:
RabidCity said:
an excellent election result, thankfully the majority can see the only way forward is to stop spending more than you earn!

Well they voted for the wrong party then because the Tories have been spending more than we earn

Hence the need for cuts which you oppose?

As long as the cuts are fair and are evenly spread over the country, rather than just hammer any non Tory Northern town or city then it has to be done by the sounds of it.

First thing we should stop is foreign aid to countries that no longer need it such as China, India and Brazil. Hopefully now the liberals have gone the Torys will start making some sensible cuts, not just targeting the small percentage of British people that they can claw benefits back from.
 
worsleyweb said:
Ducado said:
RabidCity said:
an excellent election result, thankfully the majority can see the only way forward is to stop spending more than you earn!

Well they voted for the wrong party then because the Tories have been spending more than we earn

Hence the need for cuts which you oppose?

If they make good on the 12 billion there will be carnage, they refused to say where it would come from, so one can only presume that the public would find it unpalatable it's not a vote winner with most people
 
By anyone's standard that was a hell of a shock result, am relatively happy just hope the Tories have learnt a little from their time with the lib dems who I feel sorry for, those predicting the demise of labour should be wary, with the EU referendum, snp's rise, public sector cuts and devolution to come the next few years are unpredictable

The far right of the Tory party usually give labour the kiss of life eventually
 
Ducado said:
worsleyweb said:
Ducado said:
Well they voted for the wrong party then because the Tories have been spending more than we earn

Hence the need for cuts which you oppose?

If they make good on the 12 billion there will be carnage, they refused to say where it would come from, so one can only presume that the public would find it unpalatable it's not a vote winner with most people

I think they have to save 1 pound in evey 100 pound spent? Time will tell but I don't think it wil be as bad as you think. It is a necessary evil. Cameron is not a bad pm. He won't act vindictively -it is in the countries best interests.
 
True_Blue69 said:
worsleyweb said:
Ducado said:
Well they voted for the wrong party then because the Tories have been spending more than we earn

Hence the need for cuts which you oppose?

As long as the cuts are fair and are evenly spread over the country, rather than just hammer any non Tory Northern town or city then it has to be done by the sounds of it.

First thing we should stop is foreign aid to countries that no longer need it such as China, India and Brazil. Hopefully now the liberals have gone the Torys will start making some sensible cuts, not just targeting the small percentage of British people that they can claw benefits back from.





it would be a pleasant start if they stopped the cash for question and fraudulent expenses of all mps
 
The situation is good for Cameron but not perfect.

Positives;
Outright conservative majority - Gives him great legitimacy in the public's eye
Increased Share of vote and seats for a second termer is almost unheard of and makes him a hero in his party
Dispensing with the Lib Dems means he has ministerial posts to hand out to smooth over potential sticking points within his party.
He can push ahead with boundary reforms, which are both wholly legitimate and will favour the conservatives next election.
The opposition in England is in ruins, they will lack direction and a cohesive voice for some time.

Cons:
Despite all the backslapping in the old days this would have been regarded as a very slender majority indeed. As few as seven rebels could cause chaos. And the opposition benches are closely united against austerity.
Making the Right-to-buy pledge happen is going to get messy. Legally they are on uncertain ground at best, and the HA's will fight extremely fiercly and publicly. This could come back to haunt him, if the story catches fire it will throw the spotlight onto the whole issue of housing supply. The political balance for as long as anyone can remember has been held by home-owners and recent buyers - neither side want to tell people their houses will stop being cash cows. If the story takes off, a proper debate on the situation, and the widespread and worsening nature of the situation becomes part of public debate, it will (to a wholly unknown extent, admittedly) hurt the incumbent party.

Scotland is the most interesting issue. He now has to work with the greatest enemy he has, the SNP. The SNP have constantly said that this is not about devolution - they are now representing mass dissatisfaction with austerity, and a scandanavian style liberalism that is probably the prime enemy of modern conservativism. DC has already started to try and make it about keeping the UK together, knowing that this has considerable popular support in Scotland - but he risks riling the more moderate anti-devolution voters who are already infuriated, feeling they are not listened to. I can't for the life of me figure out where these conversations are going.


The next election for the LD's and Labour depends on them winning back parts of Scotland. So we'll end up with a situation where the Tories want the SNP to be able to say they have been a success, and Labour/the Lib Dems need the Scottish voters to feel that the SNP experiment has left them worse off.

I have to think it is a bit of a freak. The expectation upon the SNP will be sky high. But despite a better election performance than anyone dared dream, they didn't end up with the balance of power that would enable them to deliver over the next five years. They have it all to lose.

The LD's can't possibly do any worse. The coalition alienated core and marginal supporters alike. And the tories probably won't be able to play the LAb/SNP card again.

And what I've heard today about Labour reaching an existential crisis is largely journalistic drama.

Milliband started with zero respect and zero chance of winning the election. The recent polls and lessening of the negative perception of him made us forget that. It made me forget my shock at how leftist some of his campaigning was.

He addressed the economy as applied to working people in the wrong way. People with zero hours contracts must have thought, will I have a job at all? And people identify him as part of Brown's government. Most of this can be wiped away with nothing more than time, a fresh faced leader and front bench, a return to the centre. Maybe a message that starts with the economy, making their USP a demand that standards of living for ordinary working people are in line with economic growth.
 
worsleyweb said:
Ducado said:
worsleyweb said:
Hence the need for cuts which you oppose?

If they make good on the 12 billion there will be carnage, they refused to say where it would come from, so one can only presume that the public would find it unpalatable it's not a vote winner with most people

I think they have to save 1 pound in evey 100 pound spent? Time will tell but I don't think it wil be as bad as you think. It is a necessary evil. Cameron is not a bad pm. He won't act vindictively -it is in the countries best interests.

If you knew the pressure that public services are already under you would understand why, the A & E crisis this winter woke me up to what was going on, local authorities can no longer afford take care of many elderly people so where do they end up? children's services departments are creaking under the strain as well, police stations are closing as well as fire stations and services to the disabled

This happened before in the 80s and it ended up costing them more to prevent the collapse of civic society
 
So if the Tories get rid if the deficit by the end of the next 5 years how much debt do you reckon we will be in its something like £1.2 trillion now isn't it, say it get to £2 how the fuck do you pay that off?
 

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