The Rapture (Return of Christ) & Doomsday Predicted

Well that at least makes sense in a rather esoteric way, (the MWI personal god idea). You quote Everett's theory as a source for your statement that god must exist, then say his personal belief is irrelevant. Surely if this conclusion was logically inescapable, it would have been perverse in the extreme to remain a committed atheist. You clearly feel you have surpassed him in logic, well done.
I'm also confused that you have said that god must exist within a realm of the multiverse but have no answer for the creator of the said multiverse, a bit like saying god created the British Isles but not the Earth on which they stand.
 
Two things after reading this below from another thread:
Would you panic if the news reported several earthquakes happening round the planet tomorrow?
Imagine the interview with this Family Radio Ministry on May 22nd!

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Most people like to push thoughts about the end of the world to the back of their minds, hopeing that the apocalypse, if it ever comes, will be a long way off.

But for one group of not-so happy campers, doomsday is a lot sooner...May 21 to be precise.
According to the predictions of the Family Radio ministry, on that date a massive earthquake will shake the world apart, littering the ground with 'many dead bodies'.

Those who believe in Jesus will be carried into heaven, while the rest of humanity will endure 153 days of 'death and horror' before the world ends on October 21.
The group of 10 Christians from Oakland have set out across the country in a convoy of caravans to bring the 'awesome' message of impending doom to as many people as possible.
'Project Caravan', as it has become known, is made up of members of the Family Radio network all of who have given up jobs, families and all their possessions to join this final mission.
Calling themselves 'ambassadors', the church members point to baffling biblical codes to demonstrate their reasoning.
Speaking to CNN the group's leader, 89-year-old Harold Camping, is adamant that the date is accurate.
He said: 'I know it's absolutely true, because the Bible is always absolutely true.
'If I were not faithful that would mean that I'm a hypocrite.'
Despite his conviction, Camping has predicted the world would end before - on September 4 1994.
That, he says, was a mistake, a misreading of the biblical codes used to decipher the exact date of the 'rapture'.
In order to get the warning out in time he fudged his calculations, a mistake he maintains he did not make this time.

According to the Church's website, there are two 'proofs' that May 21 2011 is the judgement day.

According to them, Noah's great flood occurred in the year 4990 B.C., 'exactly' 7000 years ago.

At the time, God said to Noah he had seven days before the flood would begin.

Taking a passage from 2 Peter 3:8, in which it is said a day for God is like a thousand human years, the church reasoned that seven 'days' equals 7000 human years from the time of the flood,making 2011 the year of the apocalypse.

In its second 'proof' the exact date is revealed by working forward from the exact date of the of the crucifixion - April 1, 33 AD.

According to their reasoning, there are exactly 722,500 days from April 1, 33 A.D. until May 21, 2011 - the alleged day of judgement.

This number can be represented as follows: 5 x 10 x 17 x 5 x 10 x 17 = 722,500.

The church then argues that numbers in the bible have special meanings, with the number 5 signifying atonement or redemption, the number 10 signifying 'completeness' and the number 17 equalling heaven.
'Ambassador' Sheila Jonas, another of the Family Radio faithful, spoke of her joy at joining the not-so merry band of travellers.
She said: 'I'm in it until the end.This is so serious, I can't believe I'm here.
She will not however talk about her past because: 'There is no other story. ... we are to warn the people. Nothing else matters.'
Travelling in a convoy of five caravans, the doom-mongers are adamant that Jesus is coming in three months.
And for anyone harbouring doubts over the accuracy of the prediction, the group has a cast iron answer - 'the Bible guarantees it'.

With T-shirts and banners declaring the 'Awesome News' that Judgement Day is coming, the first convoy of five caravans set off in October last year.
They have now been joined by two other convoys, all travelling to different parts of the country spreading their message.
The oldest believer on the convoy, 75-year-old Gallegos from Utah, is similar to the rest of the church members.

In order to join the trip he had to leave behind a wife of 53 years and be away from his10 children and their families.
Others have left empty houses, sold antiques, disposed of art collections or given up cars and other expensive items to join the road trip of doom.

And as if the end of the world is not bad enough, there is one final bitter pill as we approach the apocalypse.

Apparently no one from Family Radio is sure what to do to guarantee a place in heaven.

God, they say, has already predetermined the roughly two to three percent of those who will be saved come May 21.

Sadly for the rest of us all we can do is wait until the end comes. Again.
 
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YungJoshiiMcFc said:
The Rapture - 21 May 2011
End of the Word - 21 October 2011


Not sure if this has been posted anywhere but I thought I'd let you all know.
I was listening to my local radio station last night (FM104) and they had some devoted Christian on who, not by himself but with many other followers, has predicted the return of Christ and the end of the world.

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That's a link to the blog on FM104 and they also show some of the billboards that are posted up around the world at the moment including Nigeria and other countries. I havn't got time to check there actually site out but I think its ebiblefellowship.com

The lines on the phoneshow last night were jammed and I didn't get to ask my questions. Does the Pope know about this etc.

It was a bit freaky in all but also very silly. I don't think this will happen at all but it will still linger in my mind. What's your take?

Thanks mate. I've booked these days off work just in case.
 
Oh deary me.

I hope the rapture does come tomorrow, if these guys are right then it can't come soon enough. A life that is THAT much of an illogical fallacy is definitely worth ending asap. How could anybody be sure of anything if this is what defines 'proof'?!

1) There's no proof that the dates in the bible are correct

2) There's no concrete proof that a lot of the people in the bible (including Jesus) ever actually existed let alone telling us which day they died.

Even if we assume that the bible is completely factual on these things there's still so much fallacy:

3) 5, 10, 17 are 'special numbers' in the bible. Why? Where's there evidence for that. Where's the evidence for their meanings?

4) Where have they come up with (5 x 10 x 17)^2 being an algorithm for the number of days after Christ's crucifixion that judgement day will come?

5) What on Earth does Noah's Ark have to do with judgement day? 7,000 years after this biblical flood, another doomsday will occur. When does it say that?

6) What systems are they using to calculate their time scales?

There's just so many gaping holes that need answering their 'theory' might as well have been made up by a 5 year old.

It just makes me cry inside to see people using the word 'proof' in such a lame way. I've just spent two bloody hours in an exam proving things rigorously using logical systems. These guys might as well have just destroyed logic and replaced it with guesswork. If we did this then we'd all be living in caves. That's the problem. Ignorant people like this mislead people who don't know any better and it's wrong, it can ruin lives. It's Dangerous.

Sorry for the rant. I've had a stressful day haha
 

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