No, i'm asking YOU why did many in Scotland think "Scotland is being taken out of the EU against it's will", when we all didn't vote as separate nations, but ONE nation, and 1m Scots agreed with the decision. Do 1m Scots opinions not count towards Scotland?They will count in any independence vote, not sure past votes are taken into account, unless you think there shouldn't be a vote because a section of people voted a certain way in a different vote years ago.
I don't speak for them, if you are asking me, I believe the referendum should have taken into account that it's a union of 4 nations and unless the majority of nations agreed then we should have stayed in . Whether you or anyone else agree isn't my or your problem. It also has no relevance to how people will vote going forward. It's a hypothetical question.No, i'm asking YOU why did many in Scotland think "Scotland is being taken out of the EU against it's will", when we all didn't vote as separate nations, but ONE nation, and 1m Scots agreed with the decision.
That was never really going to happen though as the four countries are around 55M, 5M, 3M & 2M populations so that would have meant the decision of 63M could have been overuled by a tiny majority in a 2M country. You'd be inadvertently adding additional weight to the value of the votes in those countries which would be undemocratic.I don't speak for them, if you are asking me, I believe the referendum should have taken into account that it's a union of 4 nations and unless the majority of nations agreed then we should have stayed in . Whether you or anyone else agree isn't my or your problem. It also has no relevance to how people will vote going forward. It's a hypothetical question.
Except the UK isn't a union of 4 nations, but regions. UK is the country. Basically you're avoiding the hypocrisy that there are those who don't see Scotland as part of the union but it is they who get to dictate to other Scots the direction Scotland should be heading in. How is that any different to the attitudes of Scots nats towards England and Westminster?I don't speak for them, if you are asking me, I believe the referendum should have taken into account that it's a union of 4 nations and unless the majority of nations agreed then we should have stayed in . Whether you or anyone else agree isn't my or your problem. It also has no relevance to how people will vote going forward. It's a hypothetical question.
Now that's getting ridiculous. Off down a twisty rabbit hole I'm not going.Except the UK isn't a union of 4 nations, but regions. UK is the country. Basically you're avoiding the hypocrisy that there are those who don't see Scotland as part of the union but it is they who get to dictate to other Scots the direction Scotland should be heading in. How is that any different to the attitudes of Scots nats towards England and Westminster?
And if that nation of 5m feels strongly enough about the result….what options….either suck it up or get out of the Union that imposed that decision.That was never really going to happen though as the four countries are around 55M, 5M, 3M & 2M populations so that would have meant the decision of 63M could have been overuled by a tiny majority in a 2M country. You'd be inadvertently adding additional weight to the value of the votes in those countries which would be undemocratic.
Because you don't like it when reality slaps you in the face? Face it, you are dictating to those Scots who DON'T want to leave the union what they should and should not want. I bet the realisation for you came when you were probably going to say "majority vote rules" what you mean like in the EU referendum!?!Now that's getting ridiculous. Off down a twisty rabbit hole I'm not going.
I agree it wasn't going to happen. It is however how the EU works where smaller countries are given a veto. For me though the UK should have become a federal state many years ago, it would solve a lot of problems. With each state getting an equal or weighted vote on National issues. Still thats all theoretical stuff. I was asked what would be the reason Scotland would vote Yes. In my opinion the deciding factor would be the EU and Brexit, not some dislike of England and the English. No more than that. Revisiting the EU referendum breakdown doesn't help that conversation.That was never really going to happen though as the four countries are around 55M, 5M, 3M & 2M populations so that would have meant the decision of 63M could have been overuled by a tiny majority in a 2M country. You'd be inadvertently adding additional weight to the value of the votes in those countries which would be undemocratic.
I was talking about some of the nations being allowed to overrule the others when there is such a disparity in voter numbers. I don't disagree that there should have been a firmer rule on how to handle the result. But with Brexit we're talking solely about how the nation trades around the world and the associated issues around that, the countries of the UK are linked more than just that surely?And if that nation of 5m feels strongly enough about the result….what options….either suck it up or get out of the Union that imposed that decision.
that’s fundamental to the next referendum. Who knows what the outcome will be.
Trade?But with Brexit we're talking solely about how the nation trades around the world