The Stench of Tory

[brass neck]

Well I hear what you are saying but like most things in life, you have to piss with the cock you have. Immigration is a fact. It's due to numerous external and internal factors. The hangover from our empirical quests of robbery and extortion. Political centralization due to 2 massive world wars and a cold war. A growing gulf between rich and poor around the world and cheaper transportation. The immigrants are here to stay, on the whole they make a positive input to the nation and their food is much nicer. Get over it.

What our various governments are guilty of is not investing in infrastructure instead preferring to spend money on kissing the arse of business. Pointless nuclear deterrents. Stupid wars and nest feathering.

We need a referendum as to what we the tax payer want OUR money spent on.

 

[mad4city]

Well I hear what you are saying but like most things in life, you have to piss with the cock you have. Immigration is a fact. It's due to numerous external and internal factors. The hangover from our empirical quests of robbery and extortion. Political centralization due to 2 massive world wars and a cold war. A growing gulf between rich and poor around the world and cheaper transportation. The immigrants are here to stay, on the whole they make a positive input to the nation and their food is much nicer. Get over it.

What our various governments are guilty of is not investing in infrastructure instead preferring to spend money on kissing the arse of business. Pointless nuclear deterrents. Stupid wars and nest feathering.

We need a referendum as to what we the tax payer want OUR money spent on.

I'm nicking that phrase. Sheer poetry!

 

[Paulpowersleftfoot]

Yes. And you never "rightys" asking WHY young girls have low expectations and are undereducated and desperate for love, attention, family etc. It's like you only hear them snearing at the addicted, saying it's some sort of weakness, never once questioning why people eat junk, take drugs, drink themselves silly like Winston Churchill did!!!! The right are into personalizing blame.

Maybe if there was good, respectful, fairly paid, regulated mass employment around, maybe, maybe just our underclass may start to feel a bit more like work is fucckin worth while instead of being lectured to by the likes of Ian Duncan fookin Smith who as well as owning his own propertie, has the luxury of living rent free in his wife's families Georgian country house estate, which over the past ten years, it has received €1.5m in income support from taxpayers

I am with you if girls are getting pregnant at 13 as this is the only way they see they can get something or have a hope in life then I blame society far more than I blame them. People sneer and say they should go out and get jobs, the trouble is many haven't had a parent who has worked or taught them any sense of right and wrong and they haven't got the skills or education for it as society has failed them. Meanwhile people who have been given every opportunity by their upbringing, education and society sneer at the unfortunate and moan they are paying too much after being given everything .

It reads like a social workers mantra
Generations of bone-idle scroungers blaming the system like a badge of honour,it's pretty disgusting
There will be many of us just on this forum from council estates who left school at 16 with no qualifications whatsoever but got on through hard work
This sob story about no fairly paid jobs being available to those who choose to be the underclass is just bullshit,nothing more and nothing less

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Well I hear what you are saying but like most things in life, you have to piss with the cock you have. Immigration is a fact. It's due to numerous external and internal factors. The hangover from our empirical quests of robbery and extortion. Political centralization due to 2 massive world wars and a cold war. A growing gulf between rich and poor around the world and cheaper transportation. The immigrants are here to stay, on the whole they make a positive input to the nation and their food is much nicer. Get over it.

I'm struggling to disagree with any of that, apart from the food bit. Our food, when it's done well, ranks alongside any other.

 

[blueonblue]

Well I hear what you are saying but like most things in life, you have to piss with the cock you have. Immigration is a fact. It's due to numerous external and internal factors. The hangover from our empirical quests of robbery and extortion. Political centralization due to 2 massive world wars and a cold war. A growing gulf between rich and poor around the world and cheaper transportation. The immigrants are here to stay, on the whole they make a positive input to the nation and their food is much nicer. Get over it.

What our various governments are guilty of is not investing in infrastructure instead preferring to spend money on kissing the arse of business. Pointless nuclear deterrents. Stupid wars and nest feathering.

We need a referendum as to what we the tax payer want OUR money spent on.

But then maybe you could just stop waving your dick about and clarify how you can make the statement lumping immigrants and MASS immigration as the same thing ?, are you for or against MASS immigration.

Do not the government spend vast amounts on having to support "Our underclass" because of MASS immigration ?.

So as a tax payer (?) do you want OUR money spent on helping "Our underclass" by improving their chances of getting a job/house/education, and that the best way to do that is limit immigration ?.

 

[101toMR]

I'm struggling to disagree with any of that, apart from the food bit. Our food, when it's done well, ranks alongside any other.

I'd like to give a special mention to our plethora of puddings that put the world to shame on the gastronomy front.

 

[Paulpowersleftfoot]

Well I hear what you are saying but like most things in life, you have to piss with the cock you have. Immigration is a fact. It's due to numerous external and internal factors. The hangover from our empirical quests of robbery and extortion. Political centralization due to 2 massive world wars and a cold war. A growing gulf between rich and poor around the world and cheaper transportation. The immigrants are here to stay, on the whole they make a positive input to the nation and their food is much nicer. Get over it.

What our various governments are guilty of is not investing in infrastructure instead preferring to spend money on kissing the arse of business. Pointless nuclear deterrents. Stupid wars and nest feathering.

We need a referendum as to what we the tax payer want OUR money spent on.

But then maybe you could just stop waving your dick about and clarify how you can make the statement lumping immigrants and MASS immigration as the same thing ?, are you for or against MASS immigration.

Do not the government spend vast amounts on having to support "Our underclass" because of MASS immigration ?.

So as a tax payer (?) do you want OUR money spent on helping "Our underclass" by improving their chances of getting a job/house/education, and that the best way to do that is limit immigration ?.

Our underclass have absolutely no intention of getting a job
They want the system to give them everything

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Well I hear what you are saying but like most things in life, you have to piss with the cock you have. Immigration is a fact. It's due to numerous external and internal factors. The hangover from our empirical quests of robbery and extortion. Political centralization due to 2 massive world wars and a cold war. A growing gulf between rich and poor around the world and cheaper transportation. The immigrants are here to stay, on the whole they make a positive input to the nation and their food is much nicer. Get over it.

What our various governments are guilty of is not investing in infrastructure instead preferring to spend money on kissing the arse of business. Pointless nuclear deterrents. Stupid wars and nest feathering.

We need a referendum as to what we the tax payer want OUR money spent on.

But then maybe you could just stop waving your dick about and clarify how you can make the statement lumping immigrants and MASS immigration as the same thing ?, are you for or against MASS immigration.

Do not the government spend vast amounts on having to support "Our underclass" because of MASS immigration ?.

So as a tax payer (?) do you want OUR money spent on helping "Our underclass" by improving their chances of getting a job/house/education, and that the best way to do that is limit immigration ?.

Good to see you seem to have finally mastered the use of the quote button :-)

 

[malg]

It reads like a social workers mantra
Generations of bone-idle scroungers blaming the system like a badge of honour,it's pretty disgusting
There will be many of us just on this forum from council estates who left school at 16 with no qualifications whatsoever but got on through hard work
This sob story about no fairly paid jobs being available to those who choose to be the underclass is just bullshit,nothing more and nothing less

Although there are exceptions, I have to agree with a lot of that. I was brought up in Gorton, left school in 1981 at 16 and got on with it. I knew plenty in my school, and in Gorton, who just went on the dole - they just didn't see the point in working, and they had the ready made excuse of unemployment to back them up. However, there were jobs to be had, but they weren't well paid (I was on a YOP initially), but as with most things in life you have to knuckle down and graft. The main problem is that those who don't want to graft will always have an excuse.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Yes. And you never "rightys" asking WHY young girls have low expectations and are undereducated and desperate for love, attention, family etc. It's like you only hear them snearing at the addicted, saying it's some sort of weakness, never once questioning why people eat junk, take drugs, drink themselves silly like Winston Churchill did!!!! The right are into personalizing blame.

Maybe if there was good, respectful, fairly paid, regulated mass employment around, maybe, maybe just our underclass may start to feel a bit more like work is fucckin worth while instead of being lectured to by the likes of Ian Duncan fookin Smith who as well as owning his own propertie, has the luxury of living rent free in his wife's families Georgian country house estate, which over the past ten years, it has received €1.5m in income support from taxpayers

I am with you if girls are getting pregnant at 13 as this is the only way they see they can get something or have a hope in life then I blame society far more than I blame them. People sneer and say they should go out and get jobs, the trouble is many haven't had a parent who has worked or taught them any sense of right and wrong and they haven't got the skills or education for it as society has failed them. Meanwhile people who have been given every opportunity by their upbringing, education and society sneer at the unfortunate and moan they are paying too much after being given everything .

It reads like a social workers mantra
Generations of bone-idle scroungers blaming the system like a badge of honour,it's pretty disgusting
There will be many of us just on this forum from council estates who left school at 16 with no qualifications whatsoever but got on through hard work
This sob story about no fairly paid jobs being available to those who choose to be the underclass is just bullshit,nothing more and nothing less

Bravo!
Everyone has the choice. Not everyone has the inclination.