The Stone Roses/Ian Brown

stony said:
manimanc said:
It's black and white, you either got the Roses or you didn't..
Some people on here obviously haven't understood what it was like growing up in Manchester in the late 80's, with thatcher and no future, the Roses gave everybody that escape...
Who is and who isn't??


Absolute fucking bollocks. What you really mean is you either liked them or you didn't. As for the rest of your post, it's cringeworthy in the extreme.
Hey stony pal how's tricks? where have you been, have you had a nice break from the loony bin? In all my 41 years I have to admit being called cringeworthy is a first. Thanks mate.
 
Davs 19 said:
jimharri said:
dronefromsector7g said:
Has EVERY singer of EVERY band you've ever liked been a great vocalist?

Energy, melody, rhythm, going mental in a moshpit - music is much more than the singer's voice.
Maybe not all great, certainly. But definitely they were all powerful vocalists, something Brown most definitely isn't. And they all had stage presence and charisma. Again, qualities that Brown just doesn't have. Front men are front men for a reason; they have to project themself when they're on stage and yes, put on a show. That's what the fans are there for. Mercury, Plant, Waters, Anderson, McCartney, Jagger, Marriott, any of the classic Motown singers, Daltrey; there are more I could list, but they were all fantastic singers and/or frontmen. Brown certainly isn't. The rest of the band are competent musicians; Squire is a very good guitarist and the rhythm section are a good pairing; they're just let down by their singer. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on him.

Those you list are either dead or old Jim, nowt wrong with that, just an observation.

I think this may be an age thing as a lot of folk do tend to stick with the music they grew up with.


So to sum up , you stony and chabal are old c**ts stuck in the past while the rest of us are open minded bright young things with an eclectic taste in music ;.)

Sorted.

I am old c*nt - I can't deny it but I am not stuck in the past.

I don't mind the Stone Roses - did a couple of really good songs but they didn't have the depth or range of musicianship and songwriting ability to do much more than that.

I enjoy music where I can hear new things in it even years after I have first heard it. With the Roses, even the stuff I like, once you I've heard it once you'll never hear anything new in it again.

Now go and finish your paper round and then do your homework.
 
The majority of people on here that say they don't like them clearly cant get over the fact that they are a predominantly rag supporting band. Musically they are pretty much perfect in my opinion, only band that can compare is Oasis. My one regret is not getting to see them at Parr Hall before they did the Heaton Park gigs, their tunes are definitely more suited to a smaller venue, unlike Oasis in that respect who could play to 500,000 and still kill it.
 
chabal said:
Davs 19 said:
jimharri said:
Maybe not all great, certainly. But definitely they were all powerful vocalists, something Brown most definitely isn't. And they all had stage presence and charisma. Again, qualities that Brown just doesn't have. Front men are front men for a reason; they have to project themself when they're on stage and yes, put on a show. That's what the fans are there for. Mercury, Plant, Waters, Anderson, McCartney, Jagger, Marriott, any of the classic Motown singers, Daltrey; there are more I could list, but they were all fantastic singers and/or frontmen. Brown certainly isn't. The rest of the band are competent musicians; Squire is a very good guitarist and the rhythm section are a good pairing; they're just let down by their singer. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on him.

Those you list are either dead or old Jim, nowt wrong with that, just an observation.

I think this may be an age thing as a lot of folk do tend to stick with the music they grew up with.


So to sum up , you stony and chabal are old c**ts stuck in the past while the rest of us are open minded bright young things with an eclectic taste in music ;.)

Sorted.

I am old c*nt - I can't deny it but I am not stuck in the past.

I don't mind the Stone Roses - did a couple of really good songs but they didn't have the depth or range of musicianship and songwriting ability to do much more than that.

I enjoy music where I can hear new things in it even years after I have first heard it. With the Roses, even the stuff I like, once you I've heard it once you'll never hear anything new in it again.

Now go and finish your paper round and then do your homework.

Lol......if only I were young enough mate , if only........

Seems you certainly missed the smiley thing, or did I just touch an nerve ?

Celebrity cellar posters eh ? They're just so high maintenance these days ;.)
 
Davs 19 said:
chabal said:
Davs 19 said:
Those you list are either dead or old Jim, nowt wrong with that, just an observation.

I think this may be an age thing as a lot of folk do tend to stick with the music they grew up with.


So to sum up , you stony and chabal are old c**ts stuck in the past while the rest of us are open minded bright young things with an eclectic taste in music ;.)

Sorted.

I am old c*nt - I can't deny it but I am not stuck in the past.

I don't mind the Stone Roses - did a couple of really good songs but they didn't have the depth or range of musicianship and songwriting ability to do much more than that.

I enjoy music where I can hear new things in it even years after I have first heard it. With the Roses, even the stuff I like, once you I've heard it once you'll never hear anything new in it again.

Now go and finish your paper round and then do your homework.

Lol......if only I were young enough mate , if only........

Seems you certainly missed the smiley thing, or did I just touch an nerve ?

Celebrity cellar posters eh ? They're just so high maintenance these days ;.)

I hadn't taken offence.

I appreciate you were just being a cheeky scamp,

Not sure I am a celebrity mind although I can certainly sing better than Ian Brown,
 
chabal said:
Davs 19 said:
chabal said:
I am old c*nt - I can't deny it but I am not stuck in the past.

I don't mind the Stone Roses - did a couple of really good songs but they didn't have the depth or range of musicianship and songwriting ability to do much more than that.

I enjoy music where I can hear new things in it even years after I have first heard it. With the Roses, even the stuff I like, once you I've heard it once you'll never hear anything new in it again.

Now go and finish your paper round and then do your homework.

Lol......if only I were young enough mate , if only........

Seems you certainly missed the smiley thing, or did I just touch an nerve ?

Celebrity cellar posters eh ? They're just so high maintenance these days ;.)

I hadn't taken offence.

I appreciate you were just being a cheeky scamp,

Not sure I am a celebrity mind although I can certainly sing better than Ian Brown,


The kids have a budgie that can sing better than Brown, but anyone who thinks that's key to the Roses is probably missing the point.

Scamp is a an excellent word btw and should definitely be used more often.
 
chabal said:
Davs 19 said:
jimharri said:
Maybe not all great, certainly. But definitely they were all powerful vocalists, something Brown most definitely isn't. And they all had stage presence and charisma. Again, qualities that Brown just doesn't have. Front men are front men for a reason; they have to project themself when they're on stage and yes, put on a show. That's what the fans are there for. Mercury, Plant, Waters, Anderson, McCartney, Jagger, Marriott, any of the classic Motown singers, Daltrey; there are more I could list, but they were all fantastic singers and/or frontmen. Brown certainly isn't. The rest of the band are competent musicians; Squire is a very good guitarist and the rhythm section are a good pairing; they're just let down by their singer. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on him.

Those you list are either dead or old Jim, nowt wrong with that, just an observation.

I think this may be an age thing as a lot of folk do tend to stick with the music they grew up with.


So to sum up , you stony and chabal are old c**ts stuck in the past while the rest of us are open minded bright young things with an eclectic taste in music ;.)

Sorted.

I am old c*nt - I can't deny it but I am not stuck in the past.

I don't mind the Stone Roses - did a couple of really good songs but they didn't have the depth or range of musicianship and songwriting ability to do much more than that.

I enjoy music where I can hear new things in it even years after I have first heard it. With the Roses, even the stuff I like, once you I've heard it once you'll never hear anything new in it again.

Now go and finish your paper round and then do your homework.

That bit is nonsense. Reni is arguably the greatest drummer this country has ever produced. Squire and Mani are fantastic musicians as well.
We can all have opinions over Browns voice or whether you like the songs. But to criticize their musical abilities shows a total lack of ignorance.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
chabal said:
Davs 19 said:
Those you list are either dead or old Jim, nowt wrong with that, just an observation.

I think this may be an age thing as a lot of folk do tend to stick with the music they grew up with.


So to sum up , you stony and chabal are old c**ts stuck in the past while the rest of us are open minded bright young things with an eclectic taste in music ;.)

Sorted.

I am old c*nt - I can't deny it but I am not stuck in the past.

I don't mind the Stone Roses - did a couple of really good songs but they didn't have the depth or range of musicianship and songwriting ability to do much more than that.

I enjoy music where I can hear new things in it even years after I have first heard it. With the Roses, even the stuff I like, once you I've heard it once you'll never hear anything new in it again.

Now go and finish your paper round and then do your homework.

That bit is nonsense. Reni is arguably the greatest drummer this country has ever produced. Squire and Mani are fantastic musicians as well.
We can all have opinions over Browns voice or whether you like the songs. But to criticize their musical abilities shows a total lack of ignorance.

John Bonham is spinning in his grave
 

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