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The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement
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tolmie's hairdoo
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Have you heard anything about whether the club plan to issue any further info to supporters, akin to a KAM interview for example?
I think we deserve that at the least, but probably be up to Pep again tonight to speak?
Whatever Khaldoon says, I doubt we will ever know the full extent. Perhaps he will gladly take a Mea Culpa, to fight another day.
goalmole
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I agree with everything you say in that postGreat post and the issues you raise are correct, but you need to put it into perspective regarding City as a club and institution. A small group of men you could fit in a family car caused this. Your club has been a pivitoll part of millions of people's lives for over 100 years. Through good times and bad and plenty of utter shit times in which the support stood their ground and kept the light on, no matter how bad people at the top ran the club. You have to remember one critical thing. You lot are Man City. Not any owner, any CEO, any suit who fucks things up and brings you into disrepute. For all their perceived and real power, you stood up when they tried to undermine what you stand for and you defeated them, for the simple reason that you are the club, and will still be long after they have moved on. I would be pissed off too, but, I would focus that anger on that small group of men, whose greed and total failure to grasp what our clubs mean to every supporter the world over.
It isn't the time to sweep it aside though. You deserve answers and those responsible need to pay a price. They are now aware that they might have all the money, but all their money couldn't stop the actual club, the support, from blowing them to fuck right out of the water. Be proud of that. Be proud your support had that integrity. Had the love of the game to say, go fuck yourselves, we will not have this. If anything, you should be more proud of City. You have loads of money and could have made more, but it went against being fair, being right. This to me would be a source of pride that you stood up and sent them scurrying. They aren't Man City, they have answers to give, responsibility to accept, those five or six men. They have let you down, but City was saved by the people who are City and who have been City since the first game played by men with big moustaches in shorts that could be turned into tents. Never forget that and take pride in that. You have sent a shot across the bows of men who think they can take an institution that you love and undermine whst it means. Their awful plan didn't set sail. It was intercepted before it left the harbour by City men and women and literally blown to fuck out of the water. So if you agree with me that we as the support are the club, are every club, then you can be proud of it. You haven't only helped City but you have given hope to us all that we can all reign in greedy, selfish, non football men and if they want to go ahead by going against all we hold dear, we can and will take them down. I'm proud of you, if anything you have shown how much integrity you have and a group of men have found out just how much and how strong that is. This was a battle that had to be fought for football supporters everywhere. You not only stood up and moved to the fight, you won. If you hadn't, the game we love would have died. Don't get me wrong, I would expect no less, but I tip my cap to you all. That's what you should take from this. You stood firm and helped save the game. That seems dramatic, but it isn't, it's true. If these billionaires and their CEO's got away with it and you did nothing, then City would be fucked. These men have an integrity problem, the people who have been City, who are City now and who will be in the future won.
Your post has really gone a long way to giving this situation some perspective and putting my head straight.
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to write it.
Perhaps when City were doing a bit of review on this, Khaldoon says what about the fans? Soriano says they hate UEFA, always boo the anthem, don’t always fill the ground for group matches due to some games being shit, they’ll be pleased to move to a new league.There is no legitimate reason that would excuse the club from betraying the fans, the fact so many are concocting fairytales as a way of trying to offer City an excuse shows there isn't one.
I understand the deep rooted desire to defend the club, to want to believe they care about us, of course I do, I want that too but the decision to sign up to that showed they are no different from the rest, they couldn't give a shit and anybody dreaming up elaborate spy novel stories of masterplans to bring down rival teams needs to just step back for a second think about what they're actually saying and realise how utterly ridiculous it really is.
City sold us out just like the others. In a way City and Chelsea owners fucked the fans over the most because there wasn't even a desperation to do so like there was for other clubs
Obviously misjudged the situation, but to be demanding the club issue a public apology, so we can forgive, is scouse behaviour. Playing victims is not city fans or wasn’t. I have no doubts club learnt a valuable lesson, and I’m sure Khaldoon will allude to that in his end of season monologue, before announcing we still have money to spend. If anyone thinks we’ll get anything more, then I think you will be disappointed.
They pulled out, thank Christ, we move on. Win what we can and buy who we can afford next year and go again.
ninjamonkey
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Maybe I should have worded it differently, the betrayal comes as more of a shock and therefore hurts more to the fans of both us and chelsea.That last paragraph is some bizarre mental gymnastics, how the fuck have we been fucked over more? Very few fans from any of the six involved have been calling for a super league. Let’s see what’s said and implied from the club and then as a fan base take stock. As it’s stands for me I am just relieved no good can come from boiling your own piss over this.
24 hours ago all the talk was how it made no sense for City and Chelsea to be in on this. Every other club had a reason. Not an excuse, but an understandable reason to join. American greed and desire to franchise the game, a desire to remain relevant or a desperation for money to service crimping debt, city and Chelsea had none of these reason. they were the anomalies, there was comparatively very little benefit for those two clubs joining.
Us fans are inventing fairytales to try and explain it because it makes such little sense yet City and Chelsea still joined up, still decided to screw over the fanbase and that's why I suggested it can be argued we were screwed over more than the rest.
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To make up the numbers after Bayern and PSG fucked them off?Why did Man Utd and Liverpool invite us into their super league?
One way that they could have garnered support from their own fanbase and maybe even other clubs too is by saying OK UEFA you had your chance. You failed to legislate against the Manchester City's and PSGs so if you don't do it, we will. We are setting up our own league which will be based on sustainability. These are its founding clubs, and they do not include PSG and Manchester City.
I don't know what City did and why. It would not surprise me at all if there has been some level of cooperation between UEFA and Manchester City in seeing off a common enemy. If you look at the outcome, Manchester Utd, and Liverpool's hold on the game, and even their own clubs has been weakened considerably. UEFA are now free for a while from the threat of the cartel. It may have been an accident. It may have been a design. For me City going in at the very last moment, and then being the first to exit suggests subterfuge. We may have emboldened them to expose them only to shoot them down.
Are corporate plots like these real, or just in our imagination? One thing is sure. We are dealing here with some serious individuals and the alternative is that City behaved like bungling idiots.
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To control us.Why did Man Utd and Liverpool invite us into their super league?
One way that they could have garnered support from their own fanbase and maybe even other clubs too is by saying OK UEFA you had your chance. You failed to legislate against the Manchester City's and PSGs so if you don't do it, we will. We are setting up our own league which will be based on sustainability. These are its founding clubs, and they do not include PSG and Manchester City.
I don't know what City did and why. It would not surprise me at all if there has been some level of cooperation between UEFA and Manchester City in seeing off a common enemy. If you look at the outcome, Manchester Utd, and Liverpool's hold on the game, and even their own clubs has been weakened considerably. UEFA are now free for a while from the threat of the cartel. It may have been an accident. It may have been a design. For me City going in at the very last moment, and then being the first to exit suggests subterfuge. We may have emboldened them to expose them only to shoot them down.
Are corporate plots like these real, or just in our imagination? One thing is sure. We are dealing here with some serious individuals and the alternative is that City behaved like bungling idiots.
Puffs of wind blowing people over regularly happens on the pitch at klanfield.Yep, he had to make his pathetic apology before a puff of wind blew him over.
I saw De Bruyne's tweet last night and at first glance it was ok
Then I thought I wonder if he knew anything when he signed his new contract the other week, I believe he would not have.
Then I ask do these players ever question where the money comes from for the massive wages they are paid.
The wages they receive are part of the problem football finds itself in. City have to pay these wages it seems at this moment in time to keep the best players
Although the competition part of this 'project' and the continued presence of the founders was shit the money mentioned cannot be ignored in terms of what clubs perhaps need.
Will the players now change how they negotiate, of course not.
Only one group going to carry on paying for this in the main, the fans
Then I thought I wonder if he knew anything when he signed his new contract the other week, I believe he would not have.
Then I ask do these players ever question where the money comes from for the massive wages they are paid.
The wages they receive are part of the problem football finds itself in. City have to pay these wages it seems at this moment in time to keep the best players
Although the competition part of this 'project' and the continued presence of the founders was shit the money mentioned cannot be ignored in terms of what clubs perhaps need.
Will the players now change how they negotiate, of course not.
Only one group going to carry on paying for this in the main, the fans
lightning Rodri
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English media seems to be sticking to all PL clubs pulled out. At least in Germany, couple of reports saying PL clubs pull out AFTER city decided to withdraw.