The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement

[Centurions]

I find this whole thing of punishment quite weird. So clubs plan to break away. How is that against any rules? Not agreeing to it by far, but apparently it seems to be in the UEFA law they can punish clubs who making plans to break away?

And why a punishment for prizemoney in 23-24 season? Why not 22-23 or 25-26?
Or is it because in 23-24 the new CL formula is starting? It is. And we all know whatever happens, that season all the 9 Super League clubs that got punished now, will take part in this CL.

UEFA comes out as the big ‘winner’ and behaves like the touchables again straight away. I’m sure however the clubs owners will have demanded a few changes of their own. Let’s see if this new Champions League will not turn out to be a Super League in disguise.

Technically, none of the 9 clubs have been fined or punished. They've asked them 'as a goodwill gesture' to make the donation to kids & grassroots football and the 5% of revenue retention is being 'redistributed' although there's no indication of where to exactly. The other 3 clubs are a different matter as they still think it's going ahead...

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Have I read this correctly, Glazer is paying rags fine out of his own pockets, and won’t be coming out of the clubs finances, surely that’s not right

Seems okay to me - the fine City got from UEFA didn't count as part of FFP calculations, so there's no reason any of these payments need to. At that point, it doesn't much matter where the money comes from.

 

[CC1]

I find this whole thing of punishment quite weird. So clubs plan to break away. How is that against any rules? Not agreeing to it by far, but apparently it seems to be in the UEFA law they can punish clubs who making plans to break away?

And why a punishment for prizemoney in 23-24 season? Why not 22-23 or 25-26?
Or is it because in 23-24 the new CL formula is starting? It is. And we all know whatever happens, that season all the 9 Super League clubs that got punished now, will take part in this CL.

UEFA comes out as the big ‘winner’ and behaves like the touchables again straight away. I’m sure however the clubs owners will have demanded a few changes of their own. Let’s see if this new Champions League will not turn out to be a Super League in disguise.

Good points

Or is it because in 23-24 the new CL formula is starting?

this ensures Tottingham have to pay too:)

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Have I read this correctly, Glazer is paying rags fine out of his own pockets, and won’t be coming out of the clubs finances, surely that’s not right

Glazer is not paying a "fine". I assume that he has simply agreed to pay United's portion of the goodwill gesture out of his own pocket AND agreed that he will make up the 5% of UEFA competition revenues withheld in 2023-4, in the (highly unlikely) event United qualify for European competition then.

 

[SilverFox2]

Yeah but imagine singing "Oh what a fine. We pay loads more cos we're winning it. You pay less because you're fucking shit. What a feeling, what a fine".

I suppose our view will be that the influence of ALL those affected has been removed from Ceferin now and whilst our fine is substantial compared to others it levels the rule making bias (hopefully).

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Glazer is not paying a "fine". I assume that he has simply agreed to pay United's portion of the goodwill gesture out of his own pocket AND agreed that he will make up the 5% of UEFA competition revenues withheld in 2023-4, in the (highly unlikely) event United qualify for European competition then.

I wonder if the bad reviews rags have been leaving for sponsors products have anything to do with it. He wouldn't want fans of his American franchises getting the same idea. Just waiting for Andy Tate to be voted fan on the board.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I wonder if the bad reviews rags have been leaving for sponsors products have anything to do with it. He wouldn't want fans of his American franchises getting the same idea. Just waiting for Andy Tate to be voted fan on the board.

Commercial boycotts are always the nuclear weapons option. I was once told by a former City Director that the tipping point for Peter Swales was a threatened boycott of Greenall Whitley beer by City fans. At the time Greenalls were major shareholders' at City.
If the United fans really got their act together and started heavily targeting United sponsors (and even Tampa Bay Bucs sponsors) the Glazers would soon start squealing.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

UEFA has had a very narrow escape and was, in fact, fished out of the mire by the outrage of fans, particularly in England and Germany, but also in Italy, who were not prepared to see their national game hijacked by a bunch American and pseudo American carpetbaggers. But if Ceferin believes that this represented some tidal wave of pro-UEFA sentiment and support he will be making an enormous opinion, Contrary to what Conn assured us last summer UEFA is not popular anywhere and Ceferin needs to build bridges with fans and clubs just as much as any of the clubs pushing the ESL (and we all know who they are). City joined the ESL, as I think Chelsea did, because they couldn't trust UEFA not to give in yet again to the cartel. Few on here trust them now. What saved UEFA was the refusal of Bayern and PSG to go along with it at all and City's and Chelsea's speedy desertion. So, the real enemy has shown its face clearly and UEFA has to stiffen its backbone, grow a pair and show that it exists not to compete for sponsorship, protect the interests of a few bully boy clubs, not to make money or pay fat pensions but to ensure that it protects the interests of all clubs, of free and fair competition, and especially of fans who most certainly are not customers. A good place to start would be with the abandonment of the planned revamp of the CL and especially entry requirements for it. Oh, and maybe he could ask Tebas what La Liga plans to do about two particularly recalcitrant Spanish clubs. That would be a start and only then might there be the first faint glimmerings of a dawning confidence that UEFA has ceased to be UEFA plc and is actually becoming a governing body. Years and years later it may actually become a respected governing body.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

I wonder if the bad reviews rags have been leaving for sponsors products have anything to do with it. He wouldn't want fans of his American franchises getting the same idea. Just waiting for Andy Tate to be voted fan on the board.

That really would be an ingenious application of fan power and I'm sure the Glazers would sit up and take notice.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Commercial boycotts are always the nuclear weapons option. I was once told by a former City Director that the tipping point for Peter Swales was a threatened boycott of Greenall Whitley beer by City fans. At the time Greenalls were major shareholders' at City.
If the United fans really got their act together and started heavily targeting United sponsors (and even Tampa Bay Bucs sponsors) the Glazers would soon start squealing.

The only time I preferred bovril to beer at a game was when G W was on sale at Maine Road. Not that the stuff they dish up now is much better.