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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
LangleyBlue1970 said:
How would those opposed to this feel if this was the plan all along? The Sheikh knew eventually this would be formed, and his investment comes home to roost? The players we've been lucky to see, the trophies those players have given us, through that investment. How would you feel about all that if this was the long game from day one?
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Mate, most of us have supported City since we were kids, our parents the same.

Obviously I'm tremendously thankful for the moments we've had since the Sheikh's takeover, but City is just as much about Nicky Weaver's save to secure promotion out of the third tier as it is winning the domestic clean sweep.

I love Aguero, KDB, Spanish Dave, etc - these post-takeover players are legends every one of them - but I was happy watching Goater or Kinkladze just the same.

The point is, we are literally losing our club here. All the success, silverware and moments of glory aren't worth it. I'll take obscurity any day.
 
Damocles said:
I'm not as against this as everybody else. I'm not entirely convinced by it but I don't think it's a disgusting outrage either.

Firstly let's get real for a moment. Football has been broken since the 1990s. People talk like we're in the 1960s where all the clubs could have a similar chance of competition. We aren't and we haven't been for decades. A Leicester could happen once but the idea that you can build a sustainable challenger to the league using your academy, good management and transfer guile is farcical. United saw to that many years ago - to compete you need a billionaire to invest in you. That's the broken part, by the way. That you need that to begin with. The English game has been financially lopsided and killed competition 20 years ago.

So the competitive morality out of the way, we look at other things such as what will happen to poor Stoke and Burnley? Nothing, presumably. More to the point, I give as much of a fuck for their future as they did for us when we were going bankrupt. My emotions are tied to Man City and whats best for them.

The Super League is what's best for City. As a founding member, we're now one of the big boys forever. If there's a revolution in the UAE tomorrow and Shiekh Mansour/his family is deposed and he's forced to sell the club then its no problem. We're in the tent pissing out, permanently. The fact that we get to fuck UEFA on the way past is icing on the cake.

My only actual concern here is for the fans. It sounds like potentially 18 European away games to the final and you just know that the Final is more likely to be in Beijing than Birmingham. Affordability is going to be a significant issue and it's the only thing that's making me doubt it. If the club did something like a European equivalent of subsidised coaches then I'd be happier with it.

But yeah. It guarantees our post UAE future, it establishes us as one of the world's biggest clubs, it fucks UEFA, it will be the competition all the biggest players want to play in, it will earn us fucking bank, what's not to like?
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It destroys the meritocratic ethos of football, dilutes the significance of Premier League games between top clubs, almost certainly kills off both domestic cups and destabilises one of the strongest pyramids in world football.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Hence the word “hypocrisy.”

Do you think that he Billionaire Clubs want to share their money with the dregs of their leagues? Do you think they want to even play their €100M players against them?

The STRUCTURE of football needs changing, because the money is changing it in ways that those with the power AS the money comes pouring in are changing it FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR OWN BENEFIT, not the game itself!
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Fair enough pal, I had misunderstood the point you were making.
 
American owners wanting American sports systems. It’s basically a football franchise league with owners guaranteed an income because of the no relegation rules.
 
Damocles said:
I'm not as against this as everybody else. I'm not entirely convinced by it but I don't think it's a disgusting outrage either.

Firstly let's get real for a moment. Football has been broken since the 1990s. People talk like we're in the 1960s where all the clubs could have a similar chance of competition. We aren't and we haven't been for decades. A Leicester could happen once but the idea that you can build a sustainable challenger to the league using your academy, good management and transfer guile is farcical. United saw to that many years ago - to compete you need a billionaire to invest in you. That's the broken part, by the way. That you need that to begin with. The English game has been financially lopsided and killed competition 20 years ago.

So the competitive morality out of the way, we look at other things such as what will happen to poor Stoke and Burnley? Nothing, presumably. More to the point, I give as much of a fuck for their future as they did for us when we were going bankrupt. My emotions are tied to Man City and whats best for them.

The Super League is what's best for City. As a founding member, we're now one of the big boys forever. If there's a revolution in the UAE tomorrow and Shiekh Mansour/his family is deposed and he's forced to sell the club then its no problem. We're in the tent pissing out, permanently. The fact that we get to fuck UEFA on the way past is icing on the cake.

My only actual concern here is for the fans. It sounds like potentially 18 European away games to the final and you just know that the Final is more likely to be in Beijing than Birmingham. Affordability is going to be a significant issue and it's the only thing that's making me doubt it. If the club did something like a European equivalent of subsidised coaches then I'd be happier with it.

But yeah. It guarantees our post UAE future, it establishes us as one of the world's biggest clubs, it fucks UEFA, it will be the competition all the biggest players want to play in, it will earn us fucking bank, what's not to like?
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That’s probably our owners point of view. Mine is were becoming a part of the closed shop, greedy, snakey elite which we have despised for 10 years. I want more billionaires to invest in the likes of West Ham/Newcastle/Villa so the likes of Liverpool/United/Arsenal are just history boys, they’ve had their turn at the top, let some others have a go. This will never happen now and we’ll see the same teams at the top of global football for years. It’s a depressing thought and I don’t quite understand how some City fans can warm to the idea.
 
Akiva said:
What an eye opener about how powerless, and meaningless, we the fans have become at our own club.

We have no clout, no say, not even any connections. The club has lost touch with us then lost touch with itself.

Everything we've fought for, suffered through, hoped and built towards sold for pittance - and the fans are left to pick up the pieces.

I'd sooner see our owners fuck off and we fall into obscurity, relegation and all, than see us rush to join the elite pricks who care more about money than football. My father in law once told me "we'll always have 93:20" but, perhaps, it seems the club has found a way to downplay even that.
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i agree. I’d rather see us relegated and our owners sacked off. They don’t give a shit about us
 
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