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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%
  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%

  • Total voters
    2,063
Let me get this right...

I’ll start with some facts.

Turnover 18/19
United $764M
City $655M
Liverpool $649M
Spurs $559M
Chelsea $550M
Arsenal $478M
West Ham $235M (7th)
Huddersfield $148M (last)

CL places awarded since PL inception 29 years ago = 96

Leicester (once)
Newcastle (3 times, once knocked out in preliminary round)
Everton (once, knocked out in preliminary round)
Leeds (twice)
Blackburn (once)

So the team placed 6th in turnover (Arsenal) have over twice the turnover of the team placed 7th (West Ham).

FFP is already here and stops clubs using external investment to compete with the big 6.

The CL places have gone to the same 6 teams 92% of the time (over 29 years) and the chances of that growing are high due to FFP. Only Leicester have got in (once) over the last ten years (or since FFP).

Now the same 6 teams want to play in the CL every year, if UEFA just gave the PL another 2 CL places nothing would be said, the outcome is the same.

People now want our major shareholder to leave and chairman sacked?

On top of this the corrupt leeches called UEFA lose a big chunk of money they siphon out of the game (the same corrupt organisation who tried to ban us from the competition and who we boo every game).

Their is a new governing body to be set up, and potential refereeing reforms I for one am desperate to see.

To win the current CL before changes you play 13 games to win it, ESL you’ll play 23. Means the league cup probably gets sacked off (probably good for smaller clubs).

People want to boycott City over this?!? What.The.Fuck.

tldr nothing has really changed other than the PL gets another 2 new CL places and people are losing their shit.

Is that it in a nutshell?

Great post that puts it all in perspective.

I'd add that Newcastle, Leeds and Blackburn was all achieved on the back of huge investment back then too, that they couldn't do now.

It's selfish and greedy but that's what the Champions League is already, this Super League is simply dashing the already unattainable dreams of the also-rans.
 
The City roller-coaster will never bloody stop will it. So many ups and downs with this club!
Fair play to Patrick Bamford and in particular James Milner for saying it as it is. They don't want it.

Tonights game felt like nothing, it meant nothing.
And regardless of which way and where this goes from here, even if it goes back to the status quo ante of last week, football will never be the same again, it will never mean the same again. The emotion, glory, pain, the dreaming, the hope, the passion,everything that makes the game of football what it is and what it means to millions of football fans was murdered and in its place a sterile, insipid product designed to make money for club owners was revealed. The mask that in reality we all knew had been there for a good few decades now, finally slipped to reveal the ugly true face of the monster that has been lurking beneath. The delusion that had kept us interested and engaged up till now, the suspension of disbelief that had allowed us to kid ourselves that somehow all was as it had always been, that the values of something created by working class folk for their enjoyment and entertainment were somehow still intact, that we the people who were the most emotionally attached to what was our sport and our clubs somehow mattered, wasn't just shattered, it was blown to smithereens.
It really does change everything.
It brings football down from a passion and and an obsession for many to a mere entertainment, a bit like going to watch a movie. It's a feeling that a lot of us won't be able to shake. The history, the rivalry, the slights, the injustices, the achievements, the glory and a thousand other emotions that go to making up the psyche of a football fan have been destroyed.
In its place we now have an entertainment offering, with fake clubs, with fake owners, with fake rivalries, with fake fans.
For the sake of football and football fans in this country, I hope the 6 breakaway clubs are expelled and I hope that allows us to focus on the core of our domestic game without the distraction of always looking to European competition to bring in ever more money, to spend on ever bigger wages, with ever more expensive tickets. It would result in a departure of big name foreign players, it would result in a drop in the technical quality of the football but it would give us a chance to rebuild football in way that retains the values that make football what it is to so many passionate, genuine fans of what was the ultimate working class sport.
 
It would result in a departure of big name foreign players, it would result in a drop in the technical quality of the football but it would give us a chance to rebuild football in way that retains the values that make football what it is to so many passionate, genuine fans of what was the ultimate working class sport.
You can’t honestly want this?
 
Transfer window will be fun, players selling out to transfer to super league teams....series of threats on social media etc etc

players tuning down new contracts...agents forcing moves

players refusing to leave a super league club to step down

Or maybe can’t move back to a non super league club

wonder if the players union will ditch super league player
 
I know some of us are emotional but I wont stand for Leeds being made out to be some European giant compared to City. City have around 3 times as many seasons in the EC/CL as them now, and around twice as many seasons in major European tournaments overall.

As relative newcomers to the top 10(compared to City anyway) they reached a final off the back of loads of investment and a dirty team. City won a major European honour, which they haven't got as a club.

Beyond that, City were still more successful than Leeds were in their most successful era as a club(late 60s to mid 70s). Leeds probably challenged for the title more in that era but City won more major honours(5 to their 4 if I remember right).
 
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You can’t honestly want this?
I don't want it per se but I also don't want the sterile, money grabbing sham that football has become.
I don't want a few clubs at the top taking in all the money and everyone else begging for the crumbs and leftovers.
It has been going this way for decades, this is a culmination of that process. It cannot, for the good of football, be allowed to carry on that way.
Football is about blood, sweat and tears. It's about passion and emotion. It's about hoping you can achieve something and being afraid to lose it again. Take that out of it and it means nothing.
A few elite clubs sat at the top in perpetuity, unreachable to the majority, even if my club is part of that elite doesn't do it for me. It destroys the very thing that makes football, competition and sport what it is.
Football needs a reset
 

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