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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%
  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%

  • Total voters
    2,063
We're not exactly UEFA's best mates though are we? Or maybe this was all just a cunning plan to smoke out our enemies and detach them from positions of power.
Cefrin always gives me the feeling of a man that likes our club and the way in which it's run, The UEFA elite, the ones we have now colluded with were and still are our enemies.
 
Just playing devil's advocate here, if they really want to screw us why did they take us in ?

For the cartel we were a threat to their monopoly and revenue, since we have joined them and everyone gets guaranteed returns it might not be the case now. In fact we are part of the cartel now.
Fair point. Maybe they just realise after repeated attempts to fuck us that it isn't going to work, and therefore better to have us in the tent pissing out, than the other way around?

For my part, I cannot beiieve City are in any way supporters of this rotten scheme. We are unusual amongst the top clubs (the other being PSG) that we absolutely do not need the money, and in fact money has very little to do with our motivations. Of course we want to demonstrate that we have a successful business model and the City Group is successful both on and off the pitch. But at the end of the day our owner is not in it for the money. If it was just about money, there are 101 other things he could more wisely invest in, other than a football club/group.

Therefore, it is logical that what the SL is all about - more money for a select group of clubs - was no motivation for us. And also the SL will in fact be unappealing to us, since it is clearly being foisted upon very, very unhappy fans and with a very antogonistic general public. This is the opposite of something CFG wants to be associated with.

I am sure therefore that we only signed up for fear of the very adverse consequences were we not "in". But I hope and imagine we will be doing everything we can behind the scenes to derail it. Or at the very least, not being in any way supportive.
 
I wouldn't be shocked to see a walk back from City next couple days, much as I thought it impossible.

Uefa were speaking to us yesterday and it sounds like we may have been offered something to break away from the breakaway.

Football politics, eh?

Also, keep an eye on Infantino. We are much more closely aligned to him and even discussed a Super League of sorts with him which would have seen Soft Bank put up the funds, a firm Abu Dhabi has a big stake in.
Straight up? God I hope so, better late than never!
 
Florentino is being wheeled out to try and make the others hold their nerve
I think a few arses maybe falling out at the moment including ours!
My god i hope so, City is such an important part of my life, I currently feel like ive just discovered my wife has been cheating on me.
 
We're not exactly UEFA's best mates though are we? Or maybe this was all just a cunning plan to smoke out our enemies and detach them from positions of power.

If this is all about clubs getting money from JP Morgan to wipe their debt and make more money in a closed shop tournament. Why can’t HRH in Abu Dhabi get some money together with Uefa and bankroll a rival tournament to stop this happening, thus leaving the rags and dippers hung out to dry.
 
The choice city face now is whether to stay in with that group of elites that finally seems to have accepted us as a 'b'g club' (now known as franchise), or put the wishes of the majority fo the fans first.

Walking away now would have its benefits for City too. All the ringleaders sat within UEFA and FIFA have already, or are starting to, walk away from their positions, the Ed Woodwards and Agnelli's, who claim their position would be untenable now to remain with UEFA... but wht the hell have they been doing in that role for the past few years? Possibly feeding information to the clubs they also represent on UEFA's deals and finances? They are snakes, we all know it, and of course they have been absuing their roles with the govorning bodies to further their own club's fortunes.

In contrast, a UEFA with Woodward and more cronies removed may be more appealing to us, more transparency, a chance for reform and to remove conflicts of interest. Like it or not, UEFA has the history and the prestige. Yes, they and FFP were the tools that were used to try and beat us back, but let's not forget who was holding those tools. The very same snakes who we are snuggling up to now.

But will we walk away, after finally gaining acceptance from those that called us for years, those who tried to beat us not on the pitch, but behind desks, through newspapers and in court? If only fans had a say, eh? Feels pretty powerless, the only thing I could really do yesterday was cancel my City+ subsription, take that £1.99 per month loss ya greedy gits!

That said i'll still tune in tomorrow. Bernardo, Pep, Dias and all of them deserve our support at a cruical part of the season. Politics and greed won't derail the incredible achievemenst of MCFC this season.
 
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Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you really this dense?

Do you think the Premier League is better if more clubs care about winning it -- or even just doing well -- or fewer?
Try not to be a sarcastic little bastard yeah? I can be prickly too if I want to. You’re on the ignore list now. Don’t bother replying.
 
We're not exactly UEFA's best mates though are we? Or maybe this was all just a cunning plan to smoke out our enemies and detach them from positions of power.
I've never been sure what our relationship with UEFA has been if we're looking for a simplistic narrative. I think it's complicated and tempestuous. From the outside I would say that City have a fairly cordial relationship with Aleks Ceferin. The difficulties with the organisation appear to have been motivated by pressure being applied by the people with whom we now find ourselves in alliance.
 

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