The Title is there for the taking...

Ducado said:
pee dubya said:
I'm not sure how bothered i am by the title.

Obviously i want to win it, but i'd prefer just to enjoy watching us again, can't say last season was great to watch.

I want to see our players play to the best of their ability again, because so few of them have, after that whatever happens happens.

If they did that we would win the title at a canter!

As stated earlier I am a born optimist, my thinking on City goes something like this

If we the fans can see the problems (and some of the problems we can all agree on) then people who know a bit more about football namely the manager and the hierarchy of the club can see them as well and will be working to rectify them.

I put the last two games down to teething problems , which if we are realistic we knew they were going to happen, but Rome was not built in a day, nor was the title won or lost on the result of 3 games
No need for as many teething problems. Why change the defensive routine at set-pieces? Why play with an out and out winger and two up front?

And we've got too many forwards which is going to hamper us. You need a workable number of players who each get enough games to keep match fit and the team settled.

Frank Clark was thought of as a wily old fox when he came to manage City. Dr Venglos was very well regarded. Spurs had some highly regarded foreign coaches too who were total disasters.

Mark Hughes will be looking forward to turning the knife, and then Utd await. Was all so predictable and all because Pellegrini couldn't pick a solid team at Cardiff. He claims he knows about the Premiership. Anyone who knows English football knew full well just how difficult that game was likely to be, and we played it like mugs.<br /><br />-- Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:34 pm --<br /><br />
pee dubya said:
Ducado said:
pee dubya said:
I'm not sure how bothered i am by the title.

Obviously i want to win it, but i'd prefer just to enjoy watching us again, can't say last season was great to watch.

I want to see our players play to the best of their ability again, because so few of them have, after that whatever happens happens.

If they did that we would win the title at a canter!

As stated earlier I am a born optimist, my thinking on City goes something like this

If we the fans can see the problems (and some of the problems we can all agree on) then people who know a bit more about football namely the manager and the hierarchy of the club can see them as well and will be working to rectify them.

I put the last two games down to teething problems , which if we are realistic we knew they were going to happen, but Rome was not built in a day, nor was the title won or lost on the result of 3 games
You would hope so! But you never know.

It's funny how i've realised my attitude towards City has changed since we've become successful. I less emotionally involved and far more pragmatic about everything. It's like, no matter how badly things are going, we've still got it pretty good compared to almost everyone else. I only get the nerves for the really big matches. It feels so strange not to be surprised when we score and be confident that we'll get back into it if we concede.

Anyway, Cardiff was an aberration, performances will only improve as the players adjust.
And Hull? That was much worse than Cardiff which was complacent attacking and one off defensive errors. We still controlled that game even if we made mistakes. Against Hull we were desperately trying to keep and retain possession but never managed a single sustained period of pressure in the entire game
 
Marvin said:
Ducado said:
pee dubya said:
I'm not sure how bothered i am by the title.

Obviously i want to win it, but i'd prefer just to enjoy watching us again, can't say last season was great to watch.

I want to see our players play to the best of their ability again, because so few of them have, after that whatever happens happens.

If they did that we would win the title at a canter!

As stated earlier I am a born optimist, my thinking on City goes something like this

If we the fans can see the problems (and some of the problems we can all agree on) then people who know a bit more about football namely the manager and the hierarchy of the club can see them as well and will be working to rectify them.

I put the last two games down to teething problems , which if we are realistic we knew they were going to happen, but Rome was not built in a day, nor was the title won or lost on the result of 3 games
No need for as many teething problems. Why change the defensive routine at set-pieces? Why play with an out and out winger and two up front?

And we've got too many forwards which is going to hamper us. You need a workable number of players who each get enough games to keep match fit and the team settled.

Frank Clark was thought of as a wily old fox when he came to manage City. Dr Venglos was very well regarded. Spurs had some highly regarded foreign coaches too who were total disasters.

Mark Hughes will be looking forward to turning the knife, and then Utd await. Was all so predictable and all because Pellegrini couldn't pick a solid team at Cardiff. He claims he knows about the Premiership. Anyone who knows English football knew full well just how difficult that game was likely to be, and we played it like mugs.

-- Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:34 pm --

pee dubya said:
Ducado said:
If they did that we would win the title at a canter!

As stated earlier I am a born optimist, my thinking on City goes something like this

If we the fans can see the problems (and some of the problems we can all agree on) then people who know a bit more about football namely the manager and the hierarchy of the club can see them as well and will be working to rectify them.

I put the last two games down to teething problems , which if we are realistic we knew they were going to happen, but Rome was not built in a day, nor was the title won or lost on the result of 3 games
You would hope so! But you never know.

It's funny how i've realised my attitude towards City has changed since we've become successful. I less emotionally involved and far more pragmatic about everything. It's like, no matter how badly things are going, we've still got it pretty good compared to almost everyone else. I only get the nerves for the really big matches. It feels so strange not to be surprised when we score and be confident that we'll get back into it if we concede.

Anyway, Cardiff was an aberration, performances will only improve as the players adjust.
And Hull? That was much worse than Cardiff which was complacent attacking and one off defensive errors. We still controlled that game even if we made mistakes. Against Hull we were desperately trying to keep and retain possession but never managed a single sustained period of pressure in the entire game

Bloody hell Marvin what on earth has happened to you mate!

I have never read you being so negative about the team
 
If we persist with a pairing of Yaya and Fernandiniho we won't be taking the title back. If pellegrini can't see that then he will be lucky to see the new year in as city boss. Fuck me is it really that difficult to see Yayas failings? Get yaya further up the pitch and either Rodwell or milner to partner Fernandiniho and we'll have a chance second to none.
 
Ducado said:
Marvin said:
Ducado said:
If they did that we would win the title at a canter!

As stated earlier I am a born optimist, my thinking on City goes something like this

If we the fans can see the problems (and some of the problems we can all agree on) then people who know a bit more about football namely the manager and the hierarchy of the club can see them as well and will be working to rectify them.

I put the last two games down to teething problems , which if we are realistic we knew they were going to happen, but Rome was not built in a day, nor was the title won or lost on the result of 3 games
No need for as many teething problems. Why change the defensive routine at set-pieces? Why play with an out and out winger and two up front?

And we've got too many forwards which is going to hamper us. You need a workable number of players who each get enough games to keep match fit and the team settled.

Frank Clark was thought of as a wily old fox when he came to manage City. Dr Venglos was very well regarded. Spurs had some highly regarded foreign coaches too who were total disasters.

Mark Hughes will be looking forward to turning the knife, and then Utd await. Was all so predictable and all because Pellegrini couldn't pick a solid team at Cardiff. He claims he knows about the Premiership. Anyone who knows English football knew full well just how difficult that game was likely to be, and we played it like mugs.

-- Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:34 pm --

pee dubya said:
You would hope so! But you never know.

It's funny how i've realised my attitude towards City has changed since we've become successful. I less emotionally involved and far more pragmatic about everything. It's like, no matter how badly things are going, we've still got it pretty good compared to almost everyone else. I only get the nerves for the really big matches. It feels so strange not to be surprised when we score and be confident that we'll get back into it if we concede.

Anyway, Cardiff was an aberration, performances will only improve as the players adjust.
And Hull? That was much worse than Cardiff which was complacent attacking and one off defensive errors. We still controlled that game even if we made mistakes. Against Hull we were desperately trying to keep and retain possession but never managed a single sustained period of pressure in the entire game

Bloody hell Marvin what on earth has happened to you mate!

I have never read you being so negative about the team

Unfortunately I think a lot of what marvin says is spot on. I can't see anyone but Chelsea for the title sadly they have a better squad and IMO a better coach. I think we can get 2nd spot and I'd love another trip to wembley
 
i really want this title, wake the fuck up city fans.

Put the mind numbing alcohol down for 1 day of ur miserble lives
 
B\connellblue said:
If we persist with a pairing of Yaya and Fernandiniho we won't be taking the title back. If pellegrini can't see that then he will be lucky to see the new year in as city boss. Fuck me is it really that difficult to see Yayas failings? Get yaya further up the pitch and either Rodwell or milner to partner Fernandiniho and we'll have a chance second to none.

I think you may well be correct.
 
Scottyboi said:
And then you wake up, Utd have strengthened with a great buy. Chelsea have Eto and Torres, We now have a weak midfield due to yaya not being active enough to play with only 1 man next to him. And a defence with the speed of a cripple on a stairlift. It is going to be a tough season, Arsenal still won't be contenders their defence is worse than ours.
I disagree.

United may have strengthened their playing personnel but the leadership qualities that Ferguson possessed are now gone. It's not just a case of Ferguson out and Moyes in, it's a case of an entire change of staff. Over the course of the season, no matter how good some of United's players might be, their ability to grind out results will fade. I've seen signs of it against Chelsea and Liverpool already, where that extra push to get the points just hasn't been there, and it will happen again this season. Under Ferguson United would have taken three points from both the Chelsea and Liverpool games, under Moyes I can see them failing to pick up points in a similar manner to the way we did last season.

I still think Chelsea will run us closest to the title. Mourinho doesn't have the squad he had at his disposal last time he was Chelsea manager, but he knows how to organise a team quickly and turn them into one that grinds out important wins. Mourinho has his faults, and I think that during the season we'll see them more and more as the pressure builds, but he knows what challenge lies ahead of him with regards to the teams he knows he's going to have to finish ahead of to win the title.

With City, we've not been playing well but we've been scoring goals, which is the complete opposite of last season where we'd dominate a game but convert nothing. We look a little unbalanced in midfield with Fernandinho and Yaya Toure both being too adventurous to play in the system we currently have, and without Kompany we're a shadow of our usual selves, but you're not looking at the positives. We've added a quality winger (Navas, Jovetic), some hunger in the box (Negredo) and quality, reliable cover for Kompany (Demichelis). These are problems we've had since Mancini took over and they've been addressed now. Our squad is deep enough now to not have to rely on the same players week in week out: if Silva's having a poor game we can call on Jovetic rather than Sinclair; if Kompany is injured we can call on Lescott or Demichelis, and if Yaya - Fernandinho doesn't work we can call on Milner and Rodwell.

All is not lost.
 
Is it really the answer oushing Yaya further up.

My memory was Yaya being paired wut Barry / Garcia etc as holding modfielders - yes Yaya was given some license to break whilst the other DM pretty much always held but Yaya was only ever pushed forward when we were in trouble - Newcsastle away springs to mind.

Not quite sure what the answer is but pushing Yaya further forward and further exposing Dinho dont seem sensible.

I think the biggest issue is mind set of some of the players - would like to see Milner start dont care where
 
dctid said:
Is it really the answer oushing Yaya further up.

My memory was Yaya being paired wut Barry / Garcia etc as holding modfielders - yes Yaya was given some license to break whilst the other DM pretty much always held but Yaya was only ever pushed forward when we were in trouble - Newcsastle away springs to mind.

Not quite sure what the answer is but pushing Yaya further forward and further exposing Dinho dont seem sensible.

I think the biggest issue is mind set of some of the players - would like to see Milner start dont care where

I don't think anyone is saying that pushing Yaya forward is the answer in itself. Merely that he is not suited to the job we have him doing at the moment, which is sometimes the Nigel de Jong role when Fernandino roams forward. That is never in a million years going to work, is it. At the very least Yaya needs defensive backup if we are to persist with him as a deep lying midfield player, but others are suggesting we just give up with that altogether and push Yaya forward, allowing say Fern and Rodwell or Fern and Milner to sit back.
 
the title may well be there for the taking

by Chelsea

we are going to have to improve 200% on what we have offered so far if we want it

time will tell
 

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