The Title Race - 2023/24

[BringBackSwales]

The more teams that are in with a chance..taling points off each other will l I wer the title winners points..i think 85 to 87 points will do it i think and about 4 or 5 teams can get that this year

I reckon liverpool arsenal and spurs are our rivals this season

 

[Tolmie scores]

I reckon liverpool arsenal and spurs are our rivals this season

Liverpool have a great squad..i think champs league for Arsenal will be a challenge for them. I think our evolution is most interesting, from treble winners to a new hungry team it seems, all in 3 or 4 months.. genius is Pep

 

[come-on-barney]

Close the thread op. I saw a lap of honour this evening, well played we were so close this year. Next year will be our year.

 

[Axel Freed]

There’s a lot of recency bias on display

 

[herrock]

City 1st, Liverpool 2nd Spurs 3rd Arsenal 4th

 

[city2]

Playing catch up for scousers after playing on a Thursday night will be there downfall.

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

Not winning 11 in a row is bottling it? We still won a decent number of games at the end of the season, including a win at Newcastle. Sure we lost some games and let leads slip. But using your logic if City hadn't won 11 in a row Arsenal would have win the league so it was as much City going beast mode as it was Arsenal bottling it. A bit of both basically.

You are somewhat missing the point. You didn't need to win 11 in a row as you had a big lead, 8 wins and a draw would have done it I think. But you kept throwing away points either from very strong winning positions and/or against very poor teams.

If you seriously think your form at the end of the season was decent then you need to give your head a serious wobble. Yeah, you won at Newcastle when the pressure was off as you'd blown it by then (and had a bit of luck that day with the woodwork if I recall).

People were saying on here for most of the season about your club's emotional state (management, players and fans) - getting way too giddy with every game (win, lose or draw). Not being able to cope with the pressure is the very definition of bottling it.

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

Liverpool the team I’m most worried about so far
I expect a drop off with Arsenal when they’ve got CL football to contend with as well.

Liverpools midfield has been improved on and they should have lost games at Chelsea and Newcastle but somehow didn’t, they’ll only improve and that’ll be a big boost for them that they can play badly at hard away grounds and still pick up points

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

We’re already legendary, either a PL or a CL win this season puts to bed any argument about who is the greatest English side ever - it’d be pointless to even discuss it

Argument already put to bed for me. Centurions, domestic treble, and last year's treble - all in last 5 years. Already pointless to discuss it.

 

[bridgeno1]

You are somewhat missing the point. You didn't need to win 11 in a row as you had a big lead, 8 wins and a draw would have done it I think. But you kept throwing away points either from very strong winning positions and/or against very poor teams.

If you seriously think your form at the end of the season was decent then you need to give your head a serious wobble. Yeah, you won at Newcastle when the pressure was off as you'd blown it by then (and had a bit of luck that day with the woodwork if I recall).

People were saying on here for most of the season about your club's emotional state (management, players and fans) - getting way too giddy with every game (win, lose or draw). Not being able to cope with the pressure is the very definition of bottling it.

Fine, if you think Arsenal bottled the league instead of Man City being amazing and going on a superb run that's up to you. Fact is City won the league by 5 points so you guys needed to win minimum 9 in a row (you did 11) to win the league and 9 in a row is by any measurement a super tough task, let alone the 11 in a row you did win.

By saying Arsenal bottled it you are almost downplaying City's achievement last year in winning the league - as if to say you only won it because Arsenal chucked it away. Glass is half empty basically. I prefer to say Arsenal did really well last season when we weren't expected to, and it was an unbelievable run by City at the end of the season that did for us and that's no shame

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Still don't think the Liverpool team have got the defence for a 90+ season.

Don't think Arsenal have got the goals or balls for a 90+ season.

Don't think Spurs or Newcastle have got the squad for a 90+ season.

Don't think Chelsea have got the consistency for a 90+ season.

Don't think United have got the manager, owners, squad or balls for an 80+ season.

So the question is really about whether we can maintain the standards we've kept under Pep. I haven't seen anything to suggest that we are lacking hunger or desire.

 

[JGL07]

Paqueta will be out to prove a point.

I would put money on that.

Mind you………

 

[bridgeno1]

City 1st, Liverpool 2nd Spurs 3rd Arsenal 4th

In no warped alternate universe will Spurs finish above Arsenal this season. Arsenal have been poor by their standard so far and still have 10 points. When they hit form they will be a handful. I still can't see how the Dippers finish above Arsenal but concede it could happen. I don't think Arsenal will finish above City though but the current Arsenal from the 1st 4 games of the season shouldn't be what people judge final finishes on as they are integrating a new midfield.

 

[Semper aggressus]

Still don't think the Liverpool team have got the defence for a 90+ season.

Don't think Arsenal have got the goals or balls for a 90+ season.

Don't think Spurs or Newcastle have got the squad for a 90+ season.

Don't think Chelsea have got the consistency for a 90+ season.

Don't think United have got the manager, owners, squad or balls for an 80+ season.

So the question is really about whether we can maintain the standards we've kept under Pep. I haven't seen anything to suggest that we are lacking hunger or desire.

Hope you’re right.

Brighton could finish closer to us than any of these twats anyway, though I suspect Liverpool will be our biggest pain in the arse again this season.

 

[Tangled up in blue.]

I reckon liverpool arsenal and spurs are our rivals this season

I think liverpool will be serious contenders

 

[Franny 1234]

4 games in and people are saying spurs for a top four finish. Obviously forgetting why there called SPURSY.

 

[Inca Roads Bert]

What title race? ;)

The one that will start once we beat the dreaded 40 points mark. ;)

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Hope you’re right.

Brighton could finish closer to us than any of these twats anyway, though I suspect Liverpool will be our biggest pain in the arse again this season.

It's very, very early days.

I'll tell anyone who will listen that, until one of the other lot prove me wrong, the only other manager capable of 90+ points is Klopp. It's an incredibly high standard to reach. And I do think that's the benchmark.

Brighton will have a very Brighton season, but their manager does a better job every week of auditioning for Pep's job when he leaves.

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

Fine, if you think Arsenal bottled the league instead of Man City being amazing and going on a superb run that's up to you. Fact is City won the league by 5 points so you guys needed to win minimum 9 in a row (you did 11) to win the league and 9 in a row is by any measurement a super tough task, let alone the 11 in a row you did win.

By saying Arsenal bottled it you are almost downplaying City's achievement last year in winning the league - as if to say you only won it because Arsenal chucked it away. Glass is half empty basically. I prefer to say Arsenal did really well last season when we weren't expected to, and it was an unbelievable run by City at the end of the season that did for us and that's no shame

I'm not downplaying our achievements - I literally posted earlier that we are the greatest PL team ever! We would almost certainly have got 90+ points (again) if the race had gone to the end.

But you should have won it from the position you were in. You went from 8 points clear with 8 or so games to go to the race being over with 2 games to go. That is some collapse, caused by you throwing away 2 goal leads and letting the bottom of the league score 3 goals at The Emirates. You might not want to call it bottling it but that's what it was.

 

[Withnail]

Still don't think the Liverpool team have got the defence for a 90+ season.

Don't think Arsenal have got the goals or balls for a 90+ season.

Don't think Spurs or Newcastle have got the squad for a 90+ season.

Don't think Chelsea have got the consistency for a 90+ season.

Don't think United have got the manager, owners, squad or balls for an 80+ season.

So the question is really about whether we can maintain the standards we've kept under Pep. I haven't seen anything to suggest that we are lacking hunger or desire.

The Dippers front 5 are very good, apart from Gakpo who is nothing special imo. Defensively they are flaky as you mentioned, they need another cb and rb to challenge City.