The Title Race - 2023/24

How many points will be needed to win the league?

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supercity88 said:
We've got to keep it tight in the first 20 mins. I've put a list below of our results there under Pep in the league (plus the CL game at Anfield). The number of times we conceded in the first 15 minutes is crazy. You can see there's been a clear change in the last 4 trips. We were unlucky to lose last time out. They had 2 shots on target and it was a high profile error from Cancelo. Otherwise our management of the game was spot on.

Results in league under Pep (plus CL to highlight issue)

13 Dec 2016 Liv 1-0 City (Wijnaldum goal after 8 mins)
14 Jan 2018 Liv 4-3 City (Oxlade Chamberlain goal after 9 mins)
4 Apr 2018 Liv 3-0 City (Salah goal 12 mins) - Champions League
07 Oct 2018 Liv 0-0 City
10 Nov 2019 Liv 3-1 City (Fabinho goal 6 mins)
7 Feb 2020 Liv 1-4 City (0-0 HT)
3 Oct 2021 Liv 2-2 City (0-0 HT)
16 Oct 2022 Liv 1-0 City (0-0 HT)

They can't play with the same intensity for 90 minutes. They come flying out of the blocks, the crowd react and our high risk possession football often ends up with us gifting them space and chances. They want us to lose the ball close to our goal, or they want to draw us up the pitch onto them to turn it over and quickly attack the space our defence leaves. We just need to take the safe option for the first 20 minutes. Clear our lines, play forwards and play a less risky style until the crowd die down, and they will, as we know. Then we can impose ourselves. There will be that fraction more time on the ball and we can start to grow into the game.
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It took Pep a few visits but since that 0-0 (ffs Mahrez) we've dealt with the first 20 minutes a lot better.
 
Claytop said:
It took Pep a few visits but since that 0-0 (ffs Mahrez) we've dealt with the first 20 minutes a lot better.
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It worked when we dicked them 4-1 slowing the game down to walking pace. You do that they can’t do those quick transitions, you let them get the game stretched and quick transitions you can be in trouble. Weather the storm and they run out of ideas.
 
I think I read a stat that says the league hasnt been in a 3 way race for donkeys now. Very entertaining season so far and could go down as a very entertaining season in terms of history. You win the League n FA cup, we win the champions league and Liverpool wins the best of them all the carabao cup. Seems fair? Who says no?
 
Newman123 said:
I think I read a stat that says the league hasnt been in a 3 way race for donkeys now. Very entertaining season so far and could go down as a very entertaining season in terms of history. You win the League n FA cup, we win the champions league and Liverpool wins the best of them all the carabao cup. Seems fair? Who says no?
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Your next CL opponent ;)
 
Newman123 said:
I think I read a stat that says the league hasnt been in a 3 way race for donkeys now. Very entertaining season so far and could go down as a very entertaining season in terms of history. You win the League n FA cup, we win the champions league and Liverpool wins the best of them all the carabao cup. Seems fair? Who says no?
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2013/14 it was a 4 way race, don’t believe everything you read.
 
I think this concerns the coverage of the rivalry between Pep and Klopp and our dismal record at Anfield rather more than the title race, though there may well be a connection. I have been looking at City-Liverpool matches in the time Pep has been at City. I have confined my attention to PL matches and not taken FA cup, League cup or CL matches into consideration. In the league the teams have met 15 times in this period, 8 times at the Etihad and 7 at Anfield. At the Etihad City hav e won 4 and drawn 4. Klopp's Liverpool has never won a league match at the Etihad. They have taken 4 points in 8 games and scored only 6 goals to our 19! In the Pep years (so far) we have actually taken 5 points in one game fewer and though Liverpool have taken 14 points they have only outscored us by 8 to 7! Other City managers have not done at all well against Liverpool but Pep's record at Anfield is much better than Klopp's at the Etihad.

Tomorrow's game is, of course at Anfield but some conclusions are relevant. It does appear that Anfield and the crowd are an advantage to Liverpool and maybe even a decisive advantage because only once have City lost by more than one goal and that was the 3-1 defeat in November 2919. When Liverpool had no crowd they lost 4-1 in February 2021. The games are usually very tight and can turn on one moment of brilliance ... or one mistake as last year.
 
apart from the shit sides in the bottom 3 every game feels unpredictable this year definitely going to be some many points dropped by all 3 sides before the end
 
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